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On 22/08/2011, at 11:46 AM, David Conrad wrote:
What exactly would you have the RIRs in general or APNIC in particular do?
Step up to actively increase participation, both from outside the LIR community and within. Some examples (many of which I'm sure are being done, but just nowhere near enough to achieve enough effect):
- articles published in wider circles (i.e. general business magazines, key blogs, etc) - research commissioned from independent thinkers and then published - a much more active presence at ICANN meetings with workshops on the key issues - travelling workshops
See a pattern?
Well, yes, but probably not the one you intended :-). With the exception of pricing fluctuations, all of the radical policies you suggest seem to require some form of centralized control.
I don't want to get hung up on the radical policies I proposed, they were there to illustrate the point that different approaches within a policy framework are possible. You had some interesting questions in there that I'll quickly answer by saying the RPKI should not be voluntary and RIRs (or companion organisations to maintain a registry/regulator split) should become addressing police officers using the RPKI sanction to keep people in line.
Yes centralised control is one way of putting it, though the words imply a small number of people at the centre making decisions when my focus was on the centre enforcing the consensus decisions of a broad community. Stronger rules with stricter enforcement are increasingly necessary for the administration of key Internet resources, though we need to be careful about how that is done.
On the pricing change, I would be curious to know how you think that might emerge by itself?
What is occurring is actually the opposite: an increase in decentralization, at least in the functions associated with reuse of allocated address space and maintenance of registration data. I'd argue this decentralization is occurring because of the existing RIR system's inability to adjust in a timely fashion to an environment radically different than the one in which the original rules were defined and that this decentralization will only increase, particularly as IPv4 becomes more scarce.
I agree entirely.
You appear to be arguing that a broadening of participation will fix that. I'm ... skeptical.
The people I see who most would like to get involved in numbering policy but can't for reasons of resources or accessibility are LE, regulators, governments etc. Add those to the mix and yes the landscape will change.
warm regards Jay