> I would be grateful if you could please explain how data accuracy > will be maintained or even improved if people are required to add > information that they may well not want to supply when updating the > database? One of the major concerns I have with this proposal is that > people may decide that it is easier to leave old contact information > in the APNIC Whois Database rather than supply an IRT object with the > relevant information. As you already mentioned there is no way to force network owners to publish the correct data. That's the Internet we created and we support. But we can differentiate the network owners that care from them that do not care. That is nothing that has to be done by APNIC or any other RIR. The RIRs just should define rules, controlling these rules is everybody s job every day. I know that lots of people do not keep their records up2date, because they forget about it and not being intentionally bad. Or they have never thought about it, because they changed jobs and do not know about it. But if you ask them frequently to do so, they will not forget about it. We have done the test and created a non public list with ip ranges that have wrong abuse contacts published. (bouncing, mailbox full, ...) We offered this list to 3 huge ISPs in Europe for greylisting and it worked. Networkowners started to fix their things. Since abusix is reporting spam issues to tech-c or admin-c as long no explicit abuse contact is given, people started creating IRT-Objects or use the Abuse POC or the abuse-c. My opinion, define easy rules, remind people to stand to the rules and let the Internet community prosecute if necessary. Thanks, Tobias
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