Re: [sig-policy] [Sig-policy] prop-062-v001: Use of final /8
In context, completely agreed! The problem is that there isn't really
a shortage of non-IPv6 IP addresses.
Geoff Huston wrote:
> > prop-62 tries to give one suggestion as to what we should do with this
> > "precious" last /8 that APNIC will receive if prop-55 is approved. I'm
> > sure other folks will come up with other ideas, and I'm sure some folks
> > will be quite happy with the first come first served that we have now.
>
> And the problem is that in attempting to introduce a new distribution
> system that performs some form of rationing we need to look at the
> effects of rationing. Rationing tends to be a highly ineffectual
> distribution system - the goods remain 'cheap' but they are scarce.
> Rationing encourages hoarding as a natural reaction from the consumer.
> Rationing tends to encourage secondary markets where the same goods
> are priced according to their scarcity value. Because of the effects
> of hoarding, the secondary markets tend to operate at a level
> of scarcity premium far in excess of the actual relative scarcity level.
>
> Another approach is to perform discriminatory distribution, where
> the goods are available only on a selective basis to certain parties
> who qualify, and not to others. In this case the issue is that those
> with the greatest need, expressable as 'ability to pay' may not
> be the same as those who receive the goods. Two problems are overtly
> apparent with such a system. By selectively meeting the needs of some
> consumers and not others you are making social policies - or in
> this context you are making industry policies. I have my doubts that
> this group is the appropriate group to determine such policies
> and implement them through address distribution practices - conventionally
> this is undertaken at a national level through legislatures and implemented
> through regulation. Secondly the practice tends to encourage secondary
> markets where the same goods are priced according to their scarcity
> value, and again the secondary markets operate at a distorted
> price level for much the same reasons as the rationing scheme.
>
> Perhaps the issue here is one of illustrating that no matter
> how we attempt to impose rationing or selective distribution
> of this "final /8" as proposed in prop-055 we encounter these issues.
> There is an argument drawn from economic theory that no
> form of rationing or discriminatory distribution is efficient
> in terms of the outcomes of such a distribution function. This
> leads to the corollary that while reserving this last /8 in
> prop-055 feels emotionally like a good thing to do in order
> to provide some form of "safeguard" against some unspecified
> future event, the problem is that we really are finding it
> difficult to augment this emotional thought with a rational
> and sensible means of actually using this resource effectively
> that avoids the outcomes referred to above.
>
> regards,
>
> Geoff
>
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