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Dear
Jonny, Thanks
for elaborating. I entirely agree. ‘A large part of being
a Director on any Board (EC included) is understanding
conflict of interest - and exercising good and proper judgement
when it does, or could be perceived to arise. I completely trust
the current EC in this regard.’ However conflict of interest – and exercising
good and proper judgement when it does
and completely trust part appears a big challenge at this time. With regards Brajesh Jain -----Original Message----- Send
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1. Re: Elections (Jonny Martin)
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1 Date:
Tue, 9 Mar 2010 11:03:36 +0630 From:
Jonny Martin <jonny at jonnynet dot net> Subject:
Re: [apnic-talk] Elections To:
Naresh Ajwani <ajwaninaresh at gmail dot com> Cc:
apnic-talk at apnic dot net Message-ID:
<C69C3D67-C0AB-4868-AEBE-F5DA4799FC6D@jonnynet.net> Content-Type:
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delsp=yes On
Mar 9, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Naresh Ajwani wrote: >
In my opinion, ?Internet is the leveller? but the table and the >
process of Elections are distinctively dividing the region- I may be >
wrong in assuming the same but really dont know that how >
>
representation in current EC structure. But
being on the EC is not about "representation". It is about
acting in
the best interests of APNIC and the APNIC community as a whole. It is
not about representing a specific region or member organisation. (You
had quoted the roles and responsibilities of an EC member in your original
post so you should be aware of this). A
large part of being a Director on any Board (EC included) is understanding
conflict of interest - and exercising good and proper judgement
when it does, or could be perceived to arise. I completely trust
the current EC in this regard. Cheers, Jonny. ------------------------------ Message:
2 Date:
Mon, 8 Mar 2010 20:34:43 -0800 From:
David Conrad <drc at virtualized dot org> Subject:
Re: [apnic-talk] Elections To:
Naresh Ajwani <ajwaninaresh at gmail dot com> Cc:
apnic-talk at apnic dot net Message-ID:
<50E10075-E775-4A7D-981D-C6FABC537E16 at virtualized dot org> Content-Type:
text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Naresh, I
always thought EC members represented themselves and not their organizations,
their countries of origin, their language group, their religion, etc. Do
you have some evidence this isn't the case? Regards, -drc On
Mar 8, 2010, at 8:10 PM, Naresh Ajwani wrote: >
Dear Maemura San, > >
Hi, > >
Certainly, I wud clarify the _expression_ in due course of discussions and you
are right it's about the composition of EC because of voting pattern/stalk. > >
In my opinion, ?Internet is the leveller? but the table and the process of
Elections are distinctively dividing the region- I may be wrong in assuming the
same but really dont know that how > >
I also don?t know that how can we check a situation like that as "Security
Council" if 4 EC members from 3 countries of the same belt i.e. ?majority?
decides to block, say for example some country wants to have NIR. > >
Concerns are more on the election process but let other members from the Talk
Group also have a look at the table and roles and obligations of EC. > >
Year >
EC1 >
EC2 >
EC4 >
EC5 >
EC3 >
EC6 >
EC7 >
EC8 >
1998 >
Toru Takahashi , >
>
Geoff Huston, >
>
Xing Li, >
>
Srisakdi Charmonman, >
>
Che-Hoo Cheng, >
> >
1999 >
Toru Takahashi , >
>
Oh Kwang Sok, >
>
Xing Li, >
>
Tommi Chen, >
>
Che-Hoo Cheng, >
>
Kuo-Wei Wu, >
>
Geoff Huston, >
> >
2000 >
Kazunori Konishi, >
>
Oh Kwang Sok, >
>
Xing Li, >
>
Tommi Chen, >
>
Che-Hoo Cheng, >
>
Kuo-Wei Wu, >
>
Geoff Huston, >
> >
2001 >
MAEMURA Akinori, >
>
Byung-Kyu Kim, >
>
Xing Li, >
>
Qian Hualin, >
>
Che-Hoo Cheng, >
>
Kuo-Wei Wu, >
>
Geoff Huston, >
> >
2002 >
MAEMURA Akinori, >
>
Byung-Kyu Kim, >
>
Xing Li, >
>
Qian Hualin, >
>
Che-Hoo Cheng, >
>
Kuo-Wei Wu, >
>
Geoff Huston, >
> >
2003 >
MAEMURA Akinori , >
>
Yong Wan Ju, >
>
Qian Hualin, >
>
Ma Yan, >
>
Che-Hoo Cheng, >
>
Kuo-Wei Wu, >
>
Geoff Huston, >
> >
2004 >
MAEMURA Akinori , >
>
Yong Wan Ju, >
>
Qian Hualin, >
>
Ma Yan, >
>
Che-Hoo Cheng, >
>
Kuo-Wei Wu, >
>
Vinh Ngo, >
> >
2005 >
MAEMURA Akinori , >
>
Moo-Ho Billy Cheon, >
>
Qian Hualin, >
>
Ma Yan, >
>
Che-Hoo Cheng, >
>
Kuo-Wei Wu, >
>
Vinh Ngo, >
> >
2006 >
MAEMURA Akinori , >
>
Moo-Ho Billy Cheon, >
>
Qian Hualin, >
>
Ma Yan, >
>
Che-Hoo Cheng, >
>
Kuo-Wei Wu, >
>
Vinh Ngo, >
> >
2007 >
MAEMURA Akinori , >
>
Kusumba Sridhar, >
>
Wei Mao, >
>
Vinh Ngo, >
>
Che-Hoo Cheng, >
>
Kuo-Wei Wu, >
>
Ming-Cheng Liang, >
>
Paul Wilson, >
>
2008 >
MAEMURA Akinori, >
>
Kusumba Sridhar, >
>
Wei Mao, >
>
Ma Yan, >
>
Che-Hoo Cheng, >
>
Kuo-Wei Wu, >
>
Ming-Cheng Liang, >
>
Paul Wilson, >
>
2009 >
MAEMURA Akinori, >
>
Hyun-Joon Kwon, >
>
Jian Zhang, >
>
Ma Yan, >
>
Che-Hoo Cheng, >
>
Kuo-Wei Wu, >
>
James Spenceley, >
>
Paul Wilson, >
>
2010 >
MAEMURA Akinori, >
>
Hyun-Joon Kwon, >
>
Jian Zhang, >
>
Ma Yan, >
>
Che-Hoo Cheng, >
>
Kuo-Wei Wu, >
>
James Spenceley, >
>
Paul Wilson, >
> > >
Regards and best wishes, > >
Naresh Ajwani > >
-----Original Message----- >
From: MAEMURA Akinori [mailto:maem at nic dot ad dot jp] >
Sent: 09 March 2010 08:42 >
To: ajwaninaresh at gmail dot com; apnic-talk at apnic dot net >
Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] Elections > >
Dear Naresh, > >
|| The table is obvious on many unspoken but visibly glaring aspects which,
coupled >
|| with certain important excerpts of the by-laws reproduced below, will help
in >
|| understanding the areas of concern as well as the way forward for the
esteemed >
|| APNIC-TALK group: > >
Here I found a strong _expression_ "visibly glaring aspects" >
and it seems to be of the line-up of members of the Executive >
Council since its beginning. > > >
What do you try to mean? > > >
I agree whatever concern can be a start of good discussion. >
I really encourage apnic-talk for an active discussion. > > > >
A tiny point is that some of what you excerpted are not what >
by-law provides, but shown in >
http://www.apnic.net/about-APNIC/organization/structure/apnic-executive-council/EC-roles-and-obligations
, >
which the EC must comply as well, though. > > >
Regards, >
MAEMURA Akinori, a current EC member > > > >
In message <014601cabee4$06830070$13890150$@com> >
"[apnic-talk] Elections" >
""Naresh Ajwani" <ajwaninaresh at gmail dot com>" wrote: > >
| >
| >
| Dear All, >
| >
| On the basis of my association and experience during the last few years, I >
| appreciate and respect the processes and bottom up approach being followed at >
| APNIC and have been strongly advocating the same at various forums. In the
same >
| spirit, I am confident that the call made for election reforms, at the
recently >
| held meet at KL, would also be looked into with a positive and all inclusive >
| manner. >
| >
| Before any reforms are undertaken, one needs to understand the past scenario
and >
| the composition of EC (given below) which can be a good starting point: >
| >
| >
| Year >
| EC1 >
| EC2 >
| EC4 >
| EC5 >
| EC3 >
| EC6 >
| EC7 >
| EC8 >
| >
| 1998 >
| Toru Takahashi , >
| >
| Geoff Huston, >
| >
| Xing Li, >
| >
| Srisakdi Charmonman, >
| >
| Che-Hoo Cheng, >
| >
| >
| >
| 1999 >
| Toru Takahashi , >
| >
| Oh Kwang Sok, >
| >
| Xing Li, >
| >
| Tommi Chen, >
| >
| Che-Hoo Cheng, >
| >
| Kuo-Wei Wu, >
| >
| Geoff Huston, >
| >
| >
| >
| 2000 >
| Kazunori Konishi, >
| >
| Oh Kwang Sok, >
| >
| Xing Li, >
| >
| Tommi Chen, >
| >
| Che-Hoo Cheng, >
| >
| Kuo-Wei Wu, >
| >
| Geoff Huston, >
| >
| >
| >
| 2001 >
| MAEMURA Akinori, >
| >
| Byung-Kyu Kim, >
| >
| Xing Li, >
| >
| Qian Hualin, >
| >
| Che-Hoo Cheng, >
| >
| Kuo-Wei Wu, >
| >
| Geoff Huston, >
| >
| >
| >
| 2002 >
| MAEMURA Akinori, >
| >
| Byung-Kyu Kim, >
| >
| Xing Li, >
| >
| Qian Hualin, >
| >
| Che-Hoo Cheng, >
| >
| Kuo-Wei Wu, >
| >
| Geoff Huston, >
| >
| >
| >
| 2003 >
| MAEMURA Akinori , >
| >
| Yong Wan Ju, >
| >
| Qian Hualin, >
| >
| Ma Yan, >
| >
| Che-Hoo Cheng, >
| >
| Kuo-Wei Wu, >
| >
| Geoff Huston, >
| >
| >
| >
| 2004 >
| MAEMURA Akinori , >
| >
| Yong Wan Ju, >
| >
| Qian Hualin, >
| >
| Ma Yan, >
| >
| Che-Hoo Cheng, >
| >
| Kuo-Wei Wu, >
| >
| Vinh Ngo, >
| >
| >
| >
| 2005 >
| MAEMURA Akinori , >
| >
| Moo-Ho Billy Cheon, >
| >
| Qian Hualin, >
| >
| Ma Yan, >
| >
| Che-Hoo Cheng, >
| >
| Kuo-Wei Wu, >
| >
| Vinh Ngo, >
| >
| >
| >
| 2006 >
| MAEMURA Akinori , >
| >
| Moo-Ho Billy Cheon, >
| >
| Qian Hualin, >
| >
| Ma Yan, >
| >
| Che-Hoo Cheng, >
| >
| Kuo-Wei Wu, >
| >
| Vinh Ngo, >
| >
| >
| >
| 2007 >
| MAEMURA Akinori , >
| >
| Kusumba Sridhar, >
| >
| Wei Mao, >
| >
| Vinh Ngo, >
| >
| Che-Hoo Cheng, >
| >
| Kuo-Wei Wu, >
| >
| Ming-Cheng Liang, >
| >
| Paul Wilson, >
| >
| >
| 2008 >
| MAEMURA Akinori, >
| >
| Kusumba Sridhar, >
| >
| Wei Mao, >
| >
| Ma Yan, >
| >
| Che-Hoo Cheng, >
| >
| Kuo-Wei Wu, >
| >
| Ming-Cheng Liang, >
| >
| Paul Wilson, >
| >
| >
| 2009 >
| MAEMURA Akinori, >
| >
| Hyun-Joon Kwon, >
| >
| Jian Zhang, >
| >
| Ma Yan, >
| >
| Che-Hoo Cheng, >
| >
| Kuo-Wei Wu, >
| >
| James Spenceley, >
| >
| Paul Wilson, >
| >
| >
| 2010 >
| MAEMURA Akinori, >
| >
| Hyun-Joon Kwon, >
| >
| Jian Zhang, >
| >
| Ma Yan, >
| >
| Che-Hoo Cheng, >
| >
| Kuo-Wei Wu, >
| >
| James Spenceley, >
| >
| Paul Wilson, >
| >
| >
| >
| The table is obvious on many unspoken but visibly glaring aspects which,
coupled >
| with certain important excerpts of the by-laws reproduced below, will help in >
| understanding the areas of concern as well as the way forward for the
esteemed >
| APNIC-TALK group: >
| >
| The Executive Council: >
| . .....the Executive Council shall be
composed of seven members elected at >
| AGMs in accordance with the provisions of by-laws. >
| . Executive Council members shall serve on the
Executive Council in their >
| personal capacity and shall act in the best interests of the APNIC membership
and >
| not the Member organisation to which that individual belongs. Only one individual >
| per Member organisation may be elected to sit on the Executive Council. >
| >
| Quorum >
| . A meeting of the Executive Council is
duly constituted for all purposes >
| if at the commencement of the meeting there are present in person not less
than >
| one half of the total number of Council members or their duly authorised >
| representatives. >
| >
| EC Confidentiality >
| >
| . All business undertaken by the EC is
confidential to the EC. >
| . All EC members are requested to execute
a formal non-disclosure >
| undertaking with APNIC >
| . EC members should respect this
confidentiality by: >
| >
| - not
recording EC meetings >
| - not
inviting other members to participate in, or listen into EC >
| meetings without the prior permission >
|
of the Chair of the EC >
| - not
circulating EC mail messages to any third party without the >
| express permission of the Chair >
|
of the EC-not divulging any membership information of which they are >
| aware as an EC member. >
| >
| >
| Regards and best wishes, >
| >
| Naresh Ajwani >
| >
| >
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