Re: [apnic-talk] Elections (Aadit Shrestha)
Dear Aadit,
I am extremely heartened to see your response.
Hope APNIC community would take a note of this and Acknowledge.
With regards
Brajesh C Jain
Chair
ISOC Delhi Chapter
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Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 11:32:36 +0700
From: Aadit Shrestha <aaditshrestha at hotmail dot com>
Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] Elections
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Dear all,How about having 1 rotating seat for economies like Bangladesh,
Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bhutan, Nepal and others who control very small voting
rights, and who have never had a member elected and cannot do so in the
foreseeable future with the same regulations.
The seat could go on a round robin basis on pure consensus.
Just a thought. Aadit
From: ajwaninaresh at gmail dot com
To: maem at nic dot ad dot jp; apnic-talk at apnic dot net
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 09:40:09 +0530
Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] Elections
Dear Maemura San,
Hi,
Certainly, I wud clarify the expression in
due course of discussions and you are right it's about the composition of EC
because of voting pattern/stalk.
In my opinion, ?Internet is the
leveller? but the table and the process of Elections are distinctively
dividing the region- I may be wrong in assuming the same but really dont
know
that how Bangladesh, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and many such countries can get the
representation in current EC structure.
I also don?t know that how can we check
a situation like that as "Security Council" if 4 EC members from 3
countries of the same belt i.e. ?majority? decides to block, say
for example some country wants to have NIR.
Concerns are more on the election process but
let other members from the Talk Group also have a look at the table and
roles
and obligations of EC.
Year
EC1
EC2
EC4
EC5
EC3
EC6
EC7
EC8
1998
Toru Takahashi ,
Japan
Geoff Huston,
Australia
Xing Li,
China
Srisakdi Charmonman,
Thailand
Che-Hoo
Cheng,
Hong Kong
1999
Toru Takahashi ,
Japan
Oh Kwang Sok,
Korea
Xing Li,
China
Tommi Chen,
Malaysia
Che-Hoo
Cheng,
Hong Kong
Kuo-Wei
Wu,
Taiwan
Geoff Huston,
Australia
2000
Kazunori Konishi,
Japan
Oh Kwang Sok,
Korea
Xing Li,
China
Tommi Chen,
Malaysia
Che-Hoo
Cheng,
Hong Kong
Kuo-Wei
Wu,
Taiwan
Geoff Huston,
Australia
2001
MAEMURA Akinori,
Japan
Byung-Kyu Kim,
Korea
Xing Li,
China
Qian Hualin,
China
Che-Hoo
Cheng,
Hong Kong
Kuo-Wei
Wu,
Taiwan
Geoff Huston,
Australia
2002
MAEMURA Akinori,
Japan
Byung-Kyu Kim,
Korea
Xing Li,
China
Qian Hualin,
China
Che-Hoo
Cheng,
Hong Kong
Kuo-Wei
Wu,
Taiwan
Geoff Huston,
Australia
2003
MAEMURA Akinori ,
Japan
Yong Wan Ju,
Korea
Qian Hualin,
China
Ma Yan,
China
Che-Hoo
Cheng,
Hong Kong
Kuo-Wei
Wu,
Taiwan
Geoff Huston,
Australia
2004
MAEMURA Akinori ,
Japan
Yong Wan Ju,
Korea
Qian Hualin,
China
Ma Yan,
China
Che-Hoo
Cheng,
Hong Kong
Kuo-Wei
Wu,
Taiwan
Vinh Ngo,
Australia
2005
MAEMURA Akinori ,
Japan
Moo-Ho Billy Cheon,
Korea
Qian Hualin,
China
Ma Yan,
China
Che-Hoo
Cheng,
Hong Kong
Kuo-Wei
Wu,
Taiwan
Vinh Ngo,
Australia
2006
MAEMURA Akinori ,
Japan
Moo-Ho Billy Cheon,
Korea
Qian Hualin,
China
Ma Yan,
China
Che-Hoo
Cheng,
Hong Kong
Kuo-Wei
Wu,
Taiwan
Vinh Ngo,
Australia
2007
MAEMURA Akinori ,
Japan
Kusumba Sridhar,
India
Wei Mao,
China
Vinh Ngo,
Australia
Che-Hoo
Cheng,
Hong Kong
Kuo-Wei
Wu,
Taiwan
Ming-Cheng
Liang,
Taiwan
Paul Wilson,
Australia
2008
MAEMURA Akinori,
Japan
Kusumba Sridhar,
India
Wei Mao,
China
Ma Yan,
China
Che-Hoo
Cheng,
Hong Kong
Kuo-Wei
Wu,
Taiwan
Ming-Cheng
Liang,
Taiwan
Paul Wilson,
Australia
2009
MAEMURA Akinori,
Japan
Hyun-Joon Kwon,
Korea
Jian Zhang,
China
Ma Yan,
China
Che-Hoo
Cheng,
Hong Kong
Kuo-Wei
Wu,
Taiwan
James Spenceley,
Australia
Paul Wilson,
Australia
2010
MAEMURA Akinori,
Japan
Hyun-Joon Kwon,
Korea
Jian Zhang,
China
Ma Yan,
China
Che-Hoo
Cheng,
Hong Kong
Kuo-Wei
Wu,
Taiwan
James Spenceley,
Australia
Paul Wilson,
Australia
Regards and best wishes,
Naresh Ajwani
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Message-----
From: MAEMURA Akinori [mailto:maem at nic dot ad dot jp]
Sent: 09 March 2010 08:42
To: ajwaninaresh at gmail dot com; apnic-talk at apnic dot net
Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] Elections
Dear
Naresh,
|| The
table is obvious on many unspoken but visibly glaring aspects which, coupled
|| with
certain important excerpts of the by-laws reproduced below, will help in
||
understanding the areas of concern as well as the way forward for the
esteemed
||
APNIC-TALK group:
Here I
found a strong expression "visibly glaring aspects"
and it
seems to be of the line-up of members of the Executive
Council
since its beginning.
What do you
try to mean?
I agree
whatever concern can be a start of good discussion.
I really
encourage apnic-talk for an active discussion.
A tiny
point is that some of what you excerpted are not what
by-law
provides, but shown in
http://www.apnic.net/about-APNIC/organization/structure/apnic-executive-coun
cil/EC-roles-and-obligations
,
which the
EC must comply as well, though.
Regards,
MAEMURA
Akinori, a current EC member
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"[apnic-talk] Elections"
""Naresh Ajwani"
<ajwaninaresh at gmail dot com>" wrote:
|
|
| Dear All,
|
| On the
basis of my association and experience during the last few years, I
|
appreciate and respect the processes and bottom up approach being followed
at
| APNIC and
have been strongly advocating the same at various forums. In the same
| spirit, I
am confident that the call made for election reforms, at the recently
| held meet
at KL, would also be looked into with a positive and all inclusive
|
manner.
|
| Before
any reforms are undertaken, one needs to understand the past scenario and
| the
composition of EC (given below) which can be a good starting point:
|
|
| Year
| EC1
| EC2
| EC4
| EC5
| EC3
| EC6
| EC7
| EC8
|
| 1998
| Toru
Takahashi ,
| Japan
| Geoff
Huston,
| Australia
| Xing Li,
| China
| Srisakdi
Charmonman,
| Thailand
| Che-Hoo
Cheng,
| Hong Kong
|
|
| 1999
| Toru
Takahashi ,
| Japan
| Oh Kwang
Sok,
| Korea
| Xing Li,
| China
| Tommi
Chen,
| Malaysia
| Che-Hoo
Cheng,
| Hong Kong
| Kuo-Wei
Wu,
| Taiwan
| Geoff
Huston,
| Australia
|
|
| 2000
| Kazunori
Konishi,
| Japan
| Oh Kwang
Sok,
| Korea
| Xing Li,
| China
| Tommi
Chen,
| Malaysia
| Che-Hoo
Cheng,
| Hong Kong
| Kuo-Wei
Wu,
| Taiwan
| Geoff
Huston,
| Australia
|
|
| 2001
| MAEMURA
Akinori,
| Japan
| Byung-Kyu
Kim,
| Korea
| Xing Li,
| China
| Qian
Hualin,
| China
| Che-Hoo
Cheng,
| Hong Kong
| Kuo-Wei
Wu,
| Taiwan
| Geoff
Huston,
| Australia
|
|
| 2002
| MAEMURA
Akinori,
| Japan
| Byung-Kyu
Kim,
| Korea
| Xing Li,
| China
| Qian
Hualin,
| China
| Che-Hoo
Cheng,
| Hong Kong
| Kuo-Wei
Wu,
| Taiwan
| Geoff
Huston,
| Australia
|
|
| 2003
| MAEMURA
Akinori ,
| Japan
| Yong Wan
Ju,
| Korea
| Qian
Hualin,
| China
| Ma Yan,
| China
| Che-Hoo
Cheng,
| Hong Kong
| Kuo-Wei
Wu,
| Taiwan
| Geoff
Huston,
| Australia
|
|
| 2004
| MAEMURA
Akinori ,
| Japan
| Yong Wan
Ju,
| Korea
| Qian
Hualin,
| China
| Ma Yan,
| China
| Che-Hoo
Cheng,
| Hong Kong
| Kuo-Wei
Wu,
| Taiwan
| Vinh Ngo,
| Australia
|
|
| 2005
| MAEMURA
Akinori ,
| Japan
| Moo-Ho
Billy Cheon,
| Korea
| Qian
Hualin,
| China
| Ma Yan,
| China
| Che-Hoo
Cheng,
| Hong Kong
| Kuo-Wei
Wu,
| Taiwan
| Vinh Ngo,
| Australia
|
|
| 2006
| MAEMURA
Akinori ,
| Japan
| Moo-Ho
Billy Cheon,
| Korea
| Qian
Hualin,
| China
| Ma Yan,
| China
| Che-Hoo
Cheng,
| Hong Kong
| Kuo-Wei
Wu,
| Taiwan
| Vinh Ngo,
| Australia
|
|
| 2007
| MAEMURA
Akinori ,
| Japan
| Kusumba
Sridhar,
| India
| Wei Mao,
| China
| Vinh Ngo,
| Australia
| Che-Hoo
Cheng,
| Hong Kong
| Kuo-Wei
Wu,
| Taiwan
|
Ming-Cheng Liang,
| Taiwan
| Paul
Wilson,
| Australia
|
| 2008
| MAEMURA
Akinori,
| Japan
| Kusumba
Sridhar,
| India
| Wei Mao,
| China
| Ma Yan,
| China
| Che-Hoo
Cheng,
| Hong Kong
| Kuo-Wei
Wu,
| Taiwan
|
Ming-Cheng Liang,
| Taiwan
| Paul
Wilson,
| Australia
|
| 2009
| MAEMURA
Akinori,
| Japan
| Hyun-Joon
Kwon,
| Korea
| Jian
Zhang,
| China
| Ma Yan,
| China
| Che-Hoo
Cheng,
| Hong Kong
| Kuo-Wei
Wu,
| Taiwan
| James
Spenceley,
| Australia
| Paul
Wilson,
| Australia
|
| 2010
| MAEMURA
Akinori,
| Japan
| Hyun-Joon
Kwon,
| Korea
| Jian
Zhang,
| China
| Ma Yan,
| China
| Che-Hoo
Cheng,
| Hong Kong
| Kuo-Wei
Wu,
| Taiwan
| James
Spenceley,
| Australia
| Paul
Wilson,
| Australia
|
|
| The table
is obvious on many unspoken but visibly glaring aspects which, coupled
| with
certain important excerpts of the by-laws reproduced below, will help in
|
understanding the areas of concern as well as the way forward for the
esteemed
|
APNIC-TALK group:
|
| The
Executive Council:
| . .....the
Executive Council shall be composed of seven members elected at
| AGMs in
accordance with the provisions of by-laws.
| . Executive
Council members shall serve on the Executive Council in their
| personal
capacity and shall act in the best interests of the APNIC membership and
| not the
Member organisation to which that individual belongs. Only one individual
| per
Member organisation may be elected to sit on the Executive Council.
|
| Quorum
| . A meeting
of the Executive Council is duly constituted for all purposes
| if at the
commencement of the meeting there are present in person not less than
| one half
of the total number of Council members or their duly authorised
|
representatives.
|
| EC
Confidentiality
|
| . All
business undertaken by the EC is confidential to the EC.
| . All EC
members are requested to execute a formal non-disclosure
|
undertaking with APNIC
| . EC members
should respect this confidentiality by:
|
|
- not recording EC meetings
|
- not inviting other members
to participate in, or listen into EC
| meetings
without the prior permission
|
of the Chair of the EC
|
- not circulating EC mail
messages to any third party without the
| express
permission of the Chair
|
of the EC-not divulging any membership information of which they are
| aware as
an EC member.
|
|
| Regards
and best wishes,
|
| Naresh
Ajwani
|
|
|
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