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[wg-pdr] Operational Concern 6

by Anupam Agrawal

20 Jun 2021 6:03 a.m.

All,

This operational concern will require significant policy change by either prohibiting transfer of resources taken though LIR route by an APNIC account holder in Sec. 13.0 or by Including a consent mechanism wherein LIR approval is required for such transfers by including such a possibility in Sec. 12.1.4.

It will be good to know from secretariat that whether this operational concern is based on observations of such cases by secretariat and/or concerns has been raised by the LIRs themselves. An indicative number will be very helpful to understand how big the problem is corresponding to endeavour required for it

-- ________________________________________________________ Anupam Agrawal | India Internet Foundation - Chair | 91 990 399 2838

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Srinivas (Sunny) Chendi

21 Jun 11:08 p.m.

Hi Anupam and All,

Thanks for your queries. We will make this data available to you all soon.

Regards Sunny

On 20/06/2021 4:03 pm, Anupam Agrawal wrote:

...

All,

This operational concern will require significant policy change by either prohibiting transfer of resources taken though LIR route by an APNIC account holder in Sec. 13.0 or by Including a consent mechanism wherein LIR approval is required for such transfers by including such a possibility in Sec. 12.1.4.

It will be good to know from secretariat that whether this operational concern is based on observations of such cases by secretariat and/or concerns has been raised by the LIRs themselves. An indicative number will be very helpful to understand how big the problem is corresponding to endeavour required for it

-- ________________________________________________________ Anupam Agrawal | India Internet Foundation - Chair | 91 990 399 2838

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Simon Sohel Baroi / Global Business / 01847102243 /

30 Jun 1:55 p.m.

Hi Sunny,

Hope you are fine and doing well.

Any update on the queries given by Anupam Da. Please share at your earliest convenience.

- regards

SIMON.

On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 5:08 AM Srinivas (Sunny) Chendi sunny@apnic.net wrote:

...

Hi Anupam and All,

Thanks for your queries. We will make this data available to you all soon.

Regards Sunny

On 20/06/2021 4:03 pm, Anupam Agrawal wrote:

All,

This operational concern will require significant policy change by either prohibiting transfer of resources taken though LIR route by an APNIC account holder in Sec. 13.0 or by Including a consent mechanism wherein LIR approval is required for such transfers by including such a possibility in Sec. 12.1.4.

It will be good to know from secretariat that whether this operational concern is based on observations of such cases by secretariat and/or concerns has been raised by the LIRs themselves. An indicative number will be very helpful to understand how big the problem is corresponding to endeavour required for it

-- ________________________________________________________ Anupam Agrawal | India Internet Foundation - Chair | 91 990 399 2838

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Srinivas (Sunny) Chendi

1 Jul 1:55 a.m.

Hi all,

Apologies for the delayed response.

Here are the number of non-portable ASNs that have been transferred to other members under the transfer policy.

| year | count | +------+-------+ | 2014 | 3 | | 2015 | 6 | | 2016 | 6 | | 2017 | 21 | | 2018 | 8 | | 2019 | 15 | | 2020 | 11 | | 2021 | 4 |

Hope this information is useful for your discussion. Please let us know if you need any additional data.

Regards, Sunny

On 22/06/2021 9:08 am, Srinivas (Sunny) Chendi wrote:

...

Hi Anupam and All,

Thanks for your queries. We will make this data available to you all soon.

Regards Sunny

On 20/06/2021 4:03 pm, Anupam Agrawal wrote:

...
All,

This operational concern will require significant policy change by either prohibiting transfer of resources taken though LIR route by an APNIC account holder in Sec. 13.0 or by Including a consent mechanism wherein LIR approval is required for such transfers by including such a possibility in Sec. 12.1.4.

It will be good to know from secretariat that whether this operational concern is based on observations of such cases by secretariat and/or concerns has been raised by the LIRs themselves. An indicative number will be very helpful to understand how big the problem is corresponding to endeavour required for it

-- ________________________________________________________ Anupam Agrawal | India Internet Foundation - Chair | 91 990 399 2838

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Anupam Agrawal

2 Aug 4:38 p.m.

Dear Sunny,

Is the assumption that all the transfers stated below over the years refers to transfer within APNIC members correct?

-- ________________________________________________________ Anupam Agrawal | India Internet Foundation - Chair | 91 990 399 2838

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On 01-Jul-2021, at 7:25 AM, Srinivas (Sunny) Chendi <sunny@apnic.net mailto:sunny@apnic.net> wrote:

Hi all,

Apologies for the delayed response.

Here are the number of non-portable ASNs that have been transferred to other members under the transfer policy. | year | count | +------+-------+ | 2014 | 3 | | 2015 | 6 | | 2016 | 6 | | 2017 | 21 | | 2018 | 8 | | 2019 | 15 | | 2020 | 11 | | 2021 | 4 |

Hope this information is useful for your discussion. Please let us know if you need any additional data.

Regards, Sunny

On 22/06/2021 9:08 am, Srinivas (Sunny) Chendi wrote:

...
Hi Anupam and All,

Thanks for your queries. We will make this data available to you all soon.

Regards Sunny

On 20/06/2021 4:03 pm, Anupam Agrawal wrote:

...
All,

This operational concern will require significant policy change by either prohibiting transfer of resources taken though LIR route by an APNIC account holder in Sec. 13.0 or by Including a consent mechanism wherein LIR approval is required for such transfers by including such a possibility in Sec. 12.1.4.

It will be good to know from secretariat that whether this operational concern is based on observations of such cases by secretariat and/or concerns has been raised by the LIRs themselves. An indicative number will be very helpful to understand how big the problem is corresponding to endeavour required for it

-- ________________________________________________________ Anupam Agrawal | India Internet Foundation - Chair | 91 990 399 2838

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Srinivas (Sunny) Chendi

3 Aug 6:56 a.m.

Dear Anupam,

Your assumption is correct. Transfers data listed in my earlier email are all within (intra-RIR) APNIC members.

Regards, Sunny

On 3/08/2021 2:38 am, Anupam Agrawal wrote:

...

Dear Sunny,

Is the assumption that all the transfers stated below over the years refers to transfer within APNIC members correct?

-- ________________________________________________________ Anupam Agrawal | India Internet Foundation - Chair | 91 990 399 2838

...
On 01-Jul-2021, at 7:25 AM, Srinivas (Sunny) Chendi <sunny@apnic.net mailto:sunny@apnic.net> wrote:

Hi all,

Apologies for the delayed response.

Here are the number of non-portable ASNs that have been transferred to other members under the transfer policy. | year | count | +------+-------+ | 2014 | 3 | | 2015 | 6 | | 2016 | 6 | | 2017 | 21 | | 2018 | 8 | | 2019 | 15 | | 2020 | 11 | | 2021 | 4 |

Hope this information is useful for your discussion. Please let us know if you need any additional data.

Regards, Sunny

On 22/06/2021 9:08 am, Srinivas (Sunny) Chendi wrote:

...
Hi Anupam and All,

Thanks for your queries. We will make this data available to you all soon.

Regards Sunny

On 20/06/2021 4:03 pm, Anupam Agrawal wrote:

...
All,

This operational concern will require significant policy change by either prohibiting transfer of resources taken though LIR route by an APNIC account holder in Sec. 13.0 or by Including a consent mechanism wherein LIR approval is required for such transfers by including such a possibility in Sec. 12.1.4.

It will be good to know from secretariat that whether this operational concern is based on observations of such cases by secretariat and/or concerns has been raised by the LIRs themselves. An indicative number will be very helpful to understand how big the problem is corresponding to endeavour required for it

-- ________________________________________________________ Anupam Agrawal | India Internet Foundation - Chair | 91 990 399 2838

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