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------------------------------------------------------------------------ prop-063: Reducing timeframe of IPv4 allocations from twelve to six months ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear colleagues
prop-063, "Reducing timeframe of IPv4 allocations from twelve to six months" received support in the APNIC 26 Policy SIG but did not reach consensus. Therefore, this proposal is being returned to the Policy SIG mailing list for further discussion.
Proposal details ----------------
APNIC to make allocations based on a six months needs basis, reducing it from 12 months.
Proposal details including the full text of the proposal, presentations, links to relevant meeting archives and links to mailing list discussions are available at:
I opposed this policy on the basis that the impact on LIRs who would not be able to justify a /22 within six months did not seem to have been considered fully.
My understanding is that without a sister policy which reduced the minimum allocation size, this would effectively shut out some LIRs from getting addresses at all, since they would not be able to justify a /22 within six months, while they might previously have been able to within twelve months. Am I correct in this understanding?
-jasper
On Fri, 2008-08-29 at 16:28 +1200, Randy Bush wrote:
prop-063: Reducing timeframe of IPv4 allocations from twelve to six months
Dear colleagues
prop-063, "Reducing timeframe of IPv4 allocations from twelve to six months" received support in the APNIC 26 Policy SIG but did not reach consensus. Therefore, this proposal is being returned to the Policy SIG mailing list for further discussion.
Proposal details
APNIC to make allocations based on a six months needs basis, reducing it from 12 months.
Proposal details including the full text of the proposal, presentations, links to relevant meeting archives and links to mailing hlist discussions are available at:
http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-063-v001.html
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Hi Jasper,
On 30/08/2008, at 10:05 AM, Jasper Bryant-Greene wrote:
I opposed this policy on the basis that the impact on LIRs who would not be able to justify a /22 within six months did not seem to have been considered fully.
Yes, that is a valid point that was also expressed by several others at APNIC26.
My understanding is that without a sister policy which reduced the minimum allocation size, this would effectively shut out some LIRs from getting addresses at all, since they would not be able to justify a /22 within six months, while they might previously have been able to within twelve months. Am I correct in this understanding?
That is correct.
How about an amendment to the proposal along the following lines:
- LIRs requesting the current minimum allocation size have a 12 month timeframe with which to justify use of that space.
- LIRs requesting more than the current minimum allocation size will only receive sufficient address space for their needs for the upcoming six months.
This maintains the current minimum allocation size to timeframe ratio.
Obviously the advantage of this change is that it solves the problem of prop-063 effectively doubling the minimum allocation size. The downside of this approach is that any future changes to the minimum allocation size will have to take this proposal into account.
If this approach is acceptable, then the authors will roll this into v2 of this proposal for presentation at Manila.
My personal opinion is that a 12 month window for a minimum allocation size is better than a six month window for one half of the 12 month minimum allocation size - though this is straying into a discussion on what an appropriate minimum allocation size is, which is unrelated to the intent of this proposal.
Cheers, Jonny.
On Sat, 2008-08-30 at 14:37 +1200, Jonny Martin wrote:
On 30/08/2008, at 10:05 AM, Jasper Bryant-Greene wrote:
My understanding is that without a sister policy which reduced the minimum allocation size, this would effectively shut out some LIRs from getting addresses at all, since they would not be able to justify a /22 within six months, while they might previously have been able to within twelve months. Am I correct in this understanding?
That is correct.
How about an amendment to the proposal along the following lines:
- LIRs requesting the current minimum allocation size have a 12 month
timeframe with which to justify use of that space.
- LIRs requesting more than the current minimum allocation size will
only receive sufficient address space for their needs for the upcoming six months.
This maintains the current minimum allocation size to timeframe ratio.
I'd support the policy with this amendment.
Cheers,