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----- Original Message ----- From: Gajendra Upadhyay (COR) Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 04:17 PM To: Amit Tank (NLD); sig-policy@lists.apnic.net sig-policy@lists.apnic.net Cc: Uday Joshi (NLD); VIJEET KAMBLI (ILD) Subject: RE: sig-policy Digest, Vol 87, Issue 47

Amit, Tks. Is this now visible on the forum for others to comment? Tks and Rgds

-----Original Message----- From: Amit Tank (NLD) Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 9:01 AM To: sig-policy@lists.apnic.net Cc: Uday Joshi (NLD); VIJEET KAMBLI (ILD); Gajendra Upadhyay (COR) Subject: RE: sig-policy Digest, Vol 87, Issue 47

We welcome and support the prop-100 National IP Address Plan - Allocation of country-wide IP address blocks .

Need to have clarity on:

1. Criteria and strategy of reservation of Large IP blocks for ISP's , especially the ones which have large growth plans. 2. Availability of contiguous blocks , which would help in summarization.

Regards Amit Planning and Projects +91 9819818736

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: prop-098 Optimizing IPv6 allocation strategies(simplified) (Terence Zhang YH) 2. Re: FW: prop-100 National IP Address Plan - Allocation of country-wide IP address blocks (Milind.Deshpande@relianceada.com) 3. Re: prop-098 Optimizing IPv6 allocation strategies(simplified) (Owen DeLong) 4. Re: prop-098 Optimizing IPv6 allocation strategies(simplified) (Leo Vegoda) 5. Re: Article of possible interest to the community (John Curran)

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Message: 1 Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 14:56:22 +0800 From: "Terence Zhang YH" zhangyinghao@cnnic.cn Subject: Re: [sig-policy] prop-098 Optimizing IPv6 allocation strategies(simplified) To: "Owen DeLong" owen@delong.com Cc: sig-policy@lists.apnic.net Message-ID: 514255412.09015@cnnic.cn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

(NO link to co-chair's opinion)

Hi Owen,

We have intensive interest in prop-098, generally speaking, we support the idea of more generous IPv6 allocations policy, and nibble boundary allocation etc.

We have a few questions about the proposal:

1. About Provider Allocation Unit: It is defined as the smallest reassignment unit used by the provider.

Q1: Is the size of the PAU defined by the provider? Do they need to justify the size?

2. About End site: It is defined as a single structure or service delivery address

Q2: When it comes to mobile IP services, Is the 'end site' applied to a PDA or Cell phone devices, a personal area network (PAN), an Access Point, or a POP?

3. Section 4.2: ......5 years of projected customer utilization based on assigning each customer end-site one provider allocation unit without exceeding a 75% utilization.

Q3: Does this assume each customer end-site will be allocated one same size PAU?

4. Section 5.1 subsequent allocation criteria:

- 75% or more utilization of their total address space, OR - One or more facilities which have reached a 90% utilization...... there are no available blocks of sufficient size in the providers current allocation(s) to expand those facilities.

Q4: How to justify 'there are no available blocks of sufficient size', specifically when the LIR has sparsely assigned 160 * /40 from a /32, now one of the /40 site becomes full, and no more contiguous /40 left, will this be considered meet the criteria.

5. Section 2.4. The HD ratio ......Using nibble-boundaries and rounding up actually yields similar results with simpler math.

Q5: How to understand 'nibble-boundaries round up' will have the similiar results with HD? With a consistent 75% usage and unpredictable 1-8 times rounding up, my humble feeling is the utilization is unpredictable, but the HD-ratio requirement is predictable.

Prefix HD require Utlization: ---------------------------- /32 36.9% /28 31.2% /24 26.4% /20 22.4%

In my premature estimation, the 75% usage plus round up maybe more relax than HD requirement in small network, but it maybe more restricted than HD in large network.

Q6: Does this proposal remove HD-ratio criteria completely?

Regards Terence

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Message: 2 Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 20:45:20 +0530 From: Milind.Deshpande@relianceada.com Subject: Re: [sig-policy] FW: prop-100 National IP Address Plan - Allocation of country-wide IP address blocks To: sig-policy@lists.apnic.net Cc: Rajesh.Shinde@relianceada.com, A.Mathur@relianceada.com Message-ID: OFD7E868B6.910219F6-ON652578F7.0051E317-652578F7.0053CDD4@LocalDomain

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The prop-100 National IP Address Plan - Allocation of country-wide IP address blocks is welcomed with respect to following's,

1. Strategy of reserving large IP pool for ISP's & Organization within growing country on the basis of RIR objectives. 2. Proposal needs more clarity in terms of conservation & contiguity of IP address block like the primary goals of Aggregation (routability) so as to assist in maintenance of Internet routing tables at a manageable size to ensure continued operational stability of the Internet. 3. The policy & guidelines for establishing NIR as NGO should be addressed in the proposal or should be kept same as APNIC.

We accept the proposal with above corrections.

Regards / Milind. Network Planning & Engg. - Data Phone : 22-303 83921 RIM : 9322233904

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