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--- surfer@mauigateway.com wrote: From: "Scott Weeks" surfer@mauigateway.com
One thing that can be done to help something like this from spreading around the internet is filter your downstream BGP customers. --------------------------------
I did want to add one thing. The filtering I spoke of is to limit the maximum number of AS paths that a router doing BGP will see in addition to filtering based on the prefixes you expect to see from the customer. Evidently, old cisco code and PC based bgp daemons have the most trouble. From the NANOG mailing list newer cisco code has bgp maxas-limit 75 as the default. Personally, it's hard for me to imagine a need to prepend anywhere close to 75, but it's a wild and wolly internet out there... ;-)
scott
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Yeah, after reading some more of the articles, it was a perfect storm scenario with several factors cascading the effect.
I doubt PacNOG has much to worry about since of too many of us accepting the default free zone. We used to do it here at Blue Sky for a while, but even then I was filtering anything more than 3 hops. As long as you're not a big shot transit provider, you really shouldn't care about what's beyond your immediate upstream and their friends.
On another note, I played with AS prepends a while ago in order to try and force inbound route selection over our primary link (20Mb versus our 1.5Mb backup link). After much reading and fudging, I abandoned it and split our allocation instead. Advertising two /21s in addition to our /20 over the primary link and only the /20 on our backup link. The CIDR guys probably wouldn't be too happy if we went around doing this with anything smaller than a /23, but it's a good tradeoff IMO if you really need to force inbound route selection.
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On Feb 23, 2009, at 10:33 AM, Scott Weeks wrote:
--- surfer@mauigateway.com wrote: From: "Scott Weeks" surfer@mauigateway.com
One thing that can be done to help something like this from spreading around the internet is filter your downstream BGP customers.
I did want to add one thing. The filtering I spoke of is to limit the maximum number of AS paths that a router doing BGP will see in addition to filtering based on the prefixes you expect to see from the customer. Evidently, old cisco code and PC based bgp daemons have the most trouble. From the NANOG mailing list newer cisco code has bgp maxas-limit 75 as the default. Personally, it's hard for me to imagine a need to prepend anywhere close to 75, but it's a wild and wolly internet out there... ;-)
scott
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