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Etuate Cocker Casual Developer/Instructor/Network Engineer 10 Ngatira pl, Manurewa, Auckland. CCNA, CCNP, CCAI, CEH.
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Etuate Cocker eduade.2001@gmail.com Date: Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 8:43 PM Subject: Re: [pacnog] Fwd: bandwidth allocation for Tuvalu and Kiribati To: Save Vocea svocea@gmail.com
The purpose of my request was for those involved to respond directly to my request. My apologies if it was very offensive.
Etuate Cocker Casual Developer/Instructor/Network Engineer 10 Ngatira pl, Manurewa, Auckland. CCNA, CCNP, CCAI, CEH.
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 8:32 PM, Save Vocea svocea@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
In case you are wondering here is the list charter (rules): https://www.pacnog.org/list-charter.html
Etu,
If this is for your research and if the information is not available publicly, I also think that contacting the service providers directly and explaining to them clearly why you need the data will determine if they will want to share. Hopefully for the sake of research they will.
Fred (at PITA) may be able to help with current contact.
Cheers, Save
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 9:10 AM, Skeeve Stevens skeeve@eintellego.net wrote:
Etuate,
Given your background and experience, I am surprised you are being so rude.
I simply suggested that you are asking for information that is likely commercially sensitive, and your question was very broad, and that perhaps you could ask more specific questions, or contact providers directly. I did not dictate anything to you. I made a suggestion.
A mailing list is a discussion-list, and anyone is free to participate in the discussion, so you should be considerate and respectful of others contributions. No one is going to want to help you if you are this rude when engaged in discussion.
I know a lot of people in the Pacific, and few are as rude as you are being right now.
...Skeeve
*Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com ; www.eintellegonetworks.com
Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve
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On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Etuate Cocker eduade.2001@gmail.com wrote:
Yes lets be clear here. The Internet is an open platform so if you want to broadcast something, then please do so without having to ask for someone's permission or thoughts.
If the message is not for you ignore and move on with life. That is how we do things in the Pacific.
Etuate Cocker Casual Developer/Instructor/Network Engineer 10 Ngatira pl, Manurewa, Auckland. CCNA, CCNP, CCAI, CEH.
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 7:46 PM, Robert Smith rtsmith@wansecurity.com wrote:
Wow.
--
Robert Smith, CISSP Chief Executive Officer rtsmith@wansecurity.com
WANSecurity, Inc. Corporate Woods Area 51, #500 Overland Park, KS 66210
US Office tel +1 213 785 7800 x100 fax +1 213 785 7804 Fax
JP Office tel +81 (0)3 4590 9044 x100 fax +81 (0)3 4590 9045 Fax
My PGP public key is available from: http://www.wansecurity.com/keys/robert_smith.asc
| | | | _ | | | __| ___| | | | | | | |__ | ___| ---| |________|___|___|__|____|_______|_______|______|
On Jun 22, 2014, at 12:43 AM, Etuate Cocker eduade.2001@gmail.com wrote:
Etuate Cocker Casual Developer/Instructor/Network Engineer 10 Ngatira pl, Manurewa, Auckland. CCNA, CCNP, CCAI, CEH.
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Etuate Cocker eduade.2001@gmail.com Date: Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [pacnog] bandwidth allocation for Tuvalu and Kiribati To: Skeeve Stevens skeeve@eintellego.net
You do not dictate what others want to send into a mailing list. The
Internet is for everyone and you can choose to a read the message or ignore it.
Are you the mailing list administrator here?
Etuate Cocker Casual Developer/Instructor/Network Engineer 10 Ngatira pl, Manurewa, Auckland. CCNA, CCNP, CCAI, CEH.
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 7:40 PM, Skeeve Stevens <
skeeve@eintellego.net> wrote:
Then perhaps you should email the ISPs you require the information
from?
Asking a specific question to a specific person in an open forum
won't get you very far.
...Skeeve
Skeeve Stevens - eintellego Networks Pty Ltd skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com ; www.eintellegonetworks.com Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve facebook.com/eintellegonetworks ; linkedin.com/in/skeeve twitter.com/theispguy ; blog: www.theispguy.com
The Experts Who The Experts Call Juniper - Cisco - Cloud
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 5:37 PM, Etuate Cocker eduade.2001@gmail.com
wrote:
The question was for a specific ISP in a specific country. If you are
not the person that I am looking for, pls disregard or whatever.
Etuate Cocker Casual Developer/Instructor/Network Engineer 10 Ngatira pl, Manurewa, Auckland. CCNA, CCNP, CCAI, CEH.
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Skeeve Stevens <
skeeve@eintellego.net> wrote:
That is a bit of an odd question. You'd have to ask each and every
ISP about what they have.... and they may not tell you... well, quite unlikely to be honest as it is competitive sensitive information.
...Skeeve
Skeeve Stevens - eintellego Networks Pty Ltd skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com ; www.eintellegonetworks.com Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve facebook.com/eintellegonetworks ; linkedin.com/in/skeeve twitter.com/theispguy ; blog: www.theispguy.com
The Experts Who The Experts Call Juniper - Cisco - Cloud
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Etuate Cocker eduade.2001@gmail.com
wrote:
All, I am looking for info on the total bandwidth allocation for ISPs
in Tuvalu and Kiribati. Please provide this info.
Thanks
Etuate Cocker Casual Developer/Instructor/Network Engineer 10 Ngatira pl, Manurewa, Auckland. CCNA, CCNP, CCAI, CEH.
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To clarify,
I didn't think your post was offensive at all... I just think it wasn't very specific and probably better ways to find out the information.
Save is correct in that Fred would be very helpful in finding the contacts you would need.
(excuse the email change, I just updated my subscription)
...Skeeve
*Skeeve Stevens - Senior IP Broker* *v4Now - *an eintellego Networks service skeeve@v4now.com ; www.v4now.com
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On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Etuate Cocker eduade.2001@gmail.com wrote:
Etuate Cocker Casual Developer/Instructor/Network Engineer 10 Ngatira pl, Manurewa, Auckland. CCNA, CCNP, CCAI, CEH.
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Etuate Cocker eduade.2001@gmail.com Date: Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 8:43 PM Subject: Re: [pacnog] Fwd: bandwidth allocation for Tuvalu and Kiribati To: Save Vocea svocea@gmail.com
The purpose of my request was for those involved to respond directly to my request. My apologies if it was very offensive.
Etuate Cocker Casual Developer/Instructor/Network Engineer 10 Ngatira pl, Manurewa, Auckland. CCNA, CCNP, CCAI, CEH.
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 8:32 PM, Save Vocea svocea@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
In case you are wondering here is the list charter (rules): https://www.pacnog.org/list-charter.html
Etu,
If this is for your research and if the information is not available publicly, I also think that contacting the service providers directly and explaining to them clearly why you need the data will determine if they will want to share. Hopefully for the sake of research they will.
Fred (at PITA) may be able to help with current contact.
Cheers, Save
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 9:10 AM, Skeeve Stevens skeeve@eintellego.net wrote:
Etuate,
Given your background and experience, I am surprised you are being so rude.
I simply suggested that you are asking for information that is likely commercially sensitive, and your question was very broad, and that perhaps you could ask more specific questions, or contact providers directly. I did not dictate anything to you. I made a suggestion.
A mailing list is a discussion-list, and anyone is free to participate in the discussion, so you should be considerate and respectful of others contributions. No one is going to want to help you if you are this rude when engaged in discussion.
I know a lot of people in the Pacific, and few are as rude as you are being right now.
...Skeeve
*Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com ; www.eintellegonetworks.com
Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve
facebook.com/eintellegonetworks ; http://twitter.com/networkceoau linkedin.com/in/skeeve
twitter.com/theispguy ; blog: www.theispguy.com
The Experts Who The Experts Call Juniper - Cisco - Cloud
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Etuate Cocker eduade.2001@gmail.com wrote:
Yes lets be clear here. The Internet is an open platform so if you want to broadcast something, then please do so without having to ask for someone's permission or thoughts.
If the message is not for you ignore and move on with life. That is how we do things in the Pacific.
Etuate Cocker Casual Developer/Instructor/Network Engineer 10 Ngatira pl, Manurewa, Auckland. CCNA, CCNP, CCAI, CEH.
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 7:46 PM, Robert Smith rtsmith@wansecurity.com wrote:
Wow.
--
Robert Smith, CISSP Chief Executive Officer rtsmith@wansecurity.com
WANSecurity, Inc. Corporate Woods Area 51, #500 Overland Park, KS 66210
US Office tel +1 213 785 7800 x100 fax +1 213 785 7804 Fax
JP Office tel +81 (0)3 4590 9044 x100 fax +81 (0)3 4590 9045 Fax
My PGP public key is available from: http://www.wansecurity.com/keys/robert_smith.asc
| | | | _ | | | __| ___| | | | | | | |__ | ___| ---| |________|___|___|__|____|_______|_______|______|
On Jun 22, 2014, at 12:43 AM, Etuate Cocker eduade.2001@gmail.com wrote:
Etuate Cocker Casual Developer/Instructor/Network Engineer 10 Ngatira pl, Manurewa, Auckland. CCNA, CCNP, CCAI, CEH.
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Etuate Cocker eduade.2001@gmail.com Date: Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [pacnog] bandwidth allocation for Tuvalu and Kiribati To: Skeeve Stevens skeeve@eintellego.net
You do not dictate what others want to send into a mailing list. The
Internet is for everyone and you can choose to a read the message or ignore it.
Are you the mailing list administrator here?
Etuate Cocker Casual Developer/Instructor/Network Engineer 10 Ngatira pl, Manurewa, Auckland. CCNA, CCNP, CCAI, CEH.
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 7:40 PM, Skeeve Stevens <
skeeve@eintellego.net> wrote:
Then perhaps you should email the ISPs you require the information
from?
Asking a specific question to a specific person in an open forum
won't get you very far.
...Skeeve
Skeeve Stevens - eintellego Networks Pty Ltd skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com ; www.eintellegonetworks.com Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve facebook.com/eintellegonetworks ; linkedin.com/in/skeeve twitter.com/theispguy ; blog: www.theispguy.com
The Experts Who The Experts Call Juniper - Cisco - Cloud
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 5:37 PM, Etuate Cocker <
eduade.2001@gmail.com> wrote:
The question was for a specific ISP in a specific country. If you
are not the person that I am looking for, pls disregard or whatever.
Etuate Cocker Casual Developer/Instructor/Network Engineer 10 Ngatira pl, Manurewa, Auckland. CCNA, CCNP, CCAI, CEH.
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Skeeve Stevens <
skeeve@eintellego.net> wrote:
That is a bit of an odd question. You'd have to ask each and every
ISP about what they have.... and they may not tell you... well, quite unlikely to be honest as it is competitive sensitive information.
...Skeeve
Skeeve Stevens - eintellego Networks Pty Ltd skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com ; www.eintellegonetworks.com Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve facebook.com/eintellegonetworks ; linkedin.com/in/skeeve twitter.com/theispguy ; blog: www.theispguy.com
The Experts Who The Experts Call Juniper - Cisco - Cloud
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Etuate Cocker <
eduade.2001@gmail.com> wrote:
All, I am looking for info on the total bandwidth allocation for
ISPs in Tuvalu and Kiribati. Please provide this info.
Thanks
Etuate Cocker Casual Developer/Instructor/Network Engineer 10 Ngatira pl, Manurewa, Auckland. CCNA, CCNP, CCAI, CEH.
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