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let's ask all brokers to brag on this list about what they can do and how many blocks they have. shall we?

@apnic - can you tell me what is the purpose of this list? can I freely advertise every block I get in my inventory? how often can I send e-mails to this list before I get warned/banned?

@community - do you like receiving these kind of e-mails almost every month? Do you find them useful? If not, why is nobody reacting? If yes, would you be mad if 50 brokers decide to send similar e-mails every month?

The charter says "The APNIC Transfer mailing list was created to provide a forum enabling the sources and recipients of IPv4 address transfers, as well as IPv4 brokers, to discuss topics relevant to IPv4 transfers."

- the e-mails I see are pure sales e-mails, no topics relevant to IPv4 transfers. I call it spam sent to a mailing list and not to a bunch of individuals.

Elvis

On 8/3/17 7:56 PM, Hazan, Jack wrote:

Ipv4auctions.com http://Ipv4auctions.com is listing /19s.

[...]

*From:*apnic-transfers-bounces@apnic.net mailto:apnic-transfers-bounces@apnic.net [mailto:apnic-transfers-bounces@apnic.net] *On Behalf Of *Feras Bakkour *Sent:* Friday, 4 August 2017 2:07 p.m. *To:* apnic-transfers@apnic.net mailto:apnic-transfers@apnic.net *Subject:* [apnic-transfers] availability of /19 APNIC Block

Dears;

We have 2 x/19 APNIC blocks available for permanent sale, if anybody is interested please let me know.

Thank you

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/Feras Bakour, DBA/

/Chief Executive Officer///

/MAXTEL HOLDINGS, LLC/

I think we better give option to subscriber/member who may not interested in this mailing list to unsubscribe him/hef self...

From: Skeeve Stevens skeeve@v4now.com To: Elvis Daniel Velea elvis@v4escrow.net Cc: apnic-transfers apnic-transfers@apnic.net Date: 08-08-17 08:14 AM Subject: Re: [apnic-transfers] is this mailing list targeting discussions or is it just a list that collects sales spam? Sent by: apnic-transfers-bounces@apnic.net

I don't like it either... BUT... it is VERY hard to connect people selling and people needing... and it is often out of balance.

...Skeeve

Skeeve Stevens - Senior IP Broker v4Now - an eintellego Networks service skeeve@v4now.com ; www.v4now.com Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve facebook.com/v4now ; linkedin.com/in/skeeve twitter.com/theispguy ; blog: www.theispguy.com ; Keybase: https://keybase.io/skeeve

IP Address Brokering - Introducing sellers and buyers

On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 8:23 AM, Elvis Daniel Velea elvis@v4escrow.net wrote: let's ask all brokers to brag on this list about what they can do and how many blocks they have. shall we? @apnic - can you tell me what is the purpose of this list? can I freely advertise every block I get in my inventory? how often can I send e-mails to this list before I get warned/banned? @community - do you like receiving these kind of e-mails almost every month? Do you find them useful? If not, why is nobody reacting? If yes, would you be mad if 50 brokers decide to send similar e-mails every month? The charter says "The APNIC Transfer mailing list was created to provide a forum enabling the sources and recipients of IPv4 address transfers, as well as IPv4 brokers, to discuss topics relevant to IPv4 transfers." - the e-mails I see are pure sales e-mails, no topics relevant to IPv4 transfers. I call it spam sent to a mailing list and not to a bunch of individuals. Elvis

On 8/3/17 7:56 PM, Hazan, Jack wrote: Ipv4auctions.com is listing /19s.

[...] From:apnic-transfers-bounces@apnic.net [ mailto:apnic-transfers-bounces@apnic.net] On Behalf Of Feras Bakkour Sent: Friday, 4 August 2017 2:07 p.m. To: apnic-transfers@apnic.net Subject: [apnic-transfers] availability of /19 APNIC Block Dears; We have 2 x/19 APNIC blocks available for permanent sale, if anybody is interested please let me know. Thank you <image003.png> Feras Bakour, DBA Chief Executive Officer MAXTEL HOLDINGS, LLC

Hi Skeeve, Elvis and all,

From the Secretariat’s point of view, posting the need or availability of IPv4 address space is within the scope of the charter. Looking at the archive, the traffic this year has been quite low, and it looks like people are taking things off-list once a matching interest has been found.

Having said that, happy to hear suggestions whether we should either be more explicit in the charter, or perhaps set up another mailing list for that purpose? Please let us know how we can help.

Cheers, Sanjaya

From: apnic-transfers-bounces@apnic.net [mailto:apnic-transfers-bounces@apnic.net] On Behalf Of Skeeve Stevens Sent: Tuesday, 8 August 2017 11:16 AM To: Elvis Daniel Velea elvis@v4escrow.net Cc: apnic-transfers apnic-transfers@apnic.net Subject: Re: [apnic-transfers] is this mailing list targeting discussions or is it just a list that collects sales spam?

I don't like it either... BUT... it is VERY hard to connect people selling and people needing... and it is often out of balance.

...Skeeve

Skeeve Stevens - Senior IP Broker v4Now - an eintellego Networks service skeeve@v4now.commailto:skeeve@v4now.com ; www.v4now.comhttp://www.v4now.com/

Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve

facebook.com/v4nowhttp://facebook.com/v4now ; linkedin.com/in/skeevehttp://linkedin.com/in/skeeve

twitter.com/theispguyhttp://twitter.com/theispguy ; blog: www.theispguy.comhttp://www.theispguy.com/ ; Keybase: https://keybase.io/skeeve

[http://eintellegonetworks.com/logos/v4now-web05.png] IP Address Brokering - Introducing sellers and buyers

On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 8:23 AM, Elvis Daniel Velea <elvis@v4escrow.netmailto:elvis@v4escrow.net> wrote:

let's ask all brokers to brag on this list about what they can do and how many blocks they have. shall we?

@apnic - can you tell me what is the purpose of this list? can I freely advertise every block I get in my inventory? how often can I send e-mails to this list before I get warned/banned? @community - do you like receiving these kind of e-mails almost every month? Do you find them useful? If not, why is nobody reacting? If yes, would you be mad if 50 brokers decide to send similar e-mails every month?

The charter says "The APNIC Transfer mailing list was created to provide a forum enabling the sources and recipients of IPv4 address transfers, as well as IPv4 brokers, to discuss topics relevant to IPv4 transfers."

- the e-mails I see are pure sales e-mails, no topics relevant to IPv4 transfers. I call it spam sent to a mailing list and not to a bunch of individuals. Elvis

On 8/3/17 7:56 PM, Hazan, Jack wrote: Ipv4auctions.comhttp://Ipv4auctions.com is listing /19s. [...]

From:apnic-transfers-bounces@apnic.netmailto:apnic-transfers-bounces@apnic.net [mailto:apnic-transfers-bounces@apnic.net] On Behalf Of Feras Bakkour Sent: Friday, 4 August 2017 2:07 p.m. To: apnic-transfers@apnic.netmailto:apnic-transfers@apnic.net Subject: [apnic-transfers] availability of /19 APNIC Block Dears; We have 2 x/19 APNIC blocks available for permanent sale, if anybody is interested please let me know. Thank you <image003.png> Feras Bakour, DBA Chief Executive Officer MAXTEL HOLDINGS, LLC

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Elvis Daniel Velea

V4Escrow LLC

Chief Executive Officer

E-mail: elvis@v4escrow.netmailto:elvis@v4escrow.net

Mobile: +1 (702) 970 0921

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