> APNIC to support non-member entities, which I do not support. As a fee > paying member, this whole idea of supporting the 46K ASNs currently > visible on the Internet doesn't scale and I'd find it a waste of fee > paying member resources. Thank you for your feedback Gaurab, as an fee-paying member as well as a member of the EC you have a unique insight here. You bring up a very important concern above. It is certainly not the intent of this proposal to create an unreasonable burden on APNIC. It is difficult however for the membership as a whole to ascertain this burden is in fact unreasonable without being authorised to view any information around the costs associated with its implementation. While it is an important issue that you raise, unfortunately the magnitude of the importance depends on the magnitude of the marginal cost associated with the creation of an additional RPKI ROA. If this cost is $100 per record then as you say, this could open APNIC up to a cost of $4,600,000. I'm sure everyone would agree that that was unreasonable. If on the other hand the marginal cost of creation and maintenance is 1 cent per record then this cost is only $450, well within the realms of the other 'public good' work performed by APNIC for the benefit of non-member entities. Release of the cost implications may cause a number of outcomes for this proposal, it may prove to be a cost that members would be happy for the EC to accept, it may cause the RPKI portion of this proposal to be removed, it may also cause a different RPKI trust anchor with a lower cost model to be suggested. Sanjaya, Gaurab has bought to light an important issue which is central to this proposal. Could I request information regarding the marginal cost of creation of an additional RPKI ROA to an existing allocation be made public to the list. I appreciate that exact figures may be difficult to obtain given the tight time constraints, to make this easier, an upper and lower bound on this cost would also be fine Once again, thanks for bringing up this issue Gaurab. Regards, Dean Pemberton Technical Policy Advisor InternetNZ +64 21 920 363 (mob) dean at internetnz dot net dot nz To promote the Internet's benefits and uses, and protect its potential.