Re: [sig-policy] IPv4 transfer proposals {Security = Unclassified}
should be
* capable of being implemented, and
* capable of being enforced.
Very soon, there will be no more IPv4 addresses available in the APNIC
pool, except under very tightly confined criteria. If an organisation
has a perceived business need for additional IPv4 addresses, they will
have to buy them off someone else: there will be no other source.
These transfers WILL take place, either openly or under the table. Once
EBay (or your local equivalent) starts to feature "For sale: IPv4
Address block 'xxx.123.123.0/24'", in my opinion all the RIRs can do is
either facilitate or try to ignore the transfers, they can't stop them.
Any attempt to externally regulate such transactions is in my view
doomed to fail, the best we can hope to do is to maintain the integrity
of our registry by acknowledging the fact of the transfers.
In relation to prop-096, if a purchaser is prepared to spend $1, or $10,
or $100, or whatever the market price will be, for an IPv4 address, then
as I see it they very obviously have "a need for those resources". The
need will be a business need, which may be to set up a web site (a
'good' purpose?) or to accumulate a bank of saleable assets (a 'bad'
purpose?).
I am opposed to both these proposals.
Regards
Mike
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From: sig-policy-bounces at lists dot apnic dot net
[mailto:sig-policy-bounces at lists dot apnic dot net] On Behalf Of Gaurab Raj
Upadhaya
Sent: Tuesday, 8 February 2011 2:19 p.m.
To: APNIC Policy SIG List
Subject: [sig-policy] IPv4 transfer proposals
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Dear Colleagues
As noted in yesterday's email summarizing final /8 proposals, it's
important to get discussion underway on this mailing list well before
APNIC 31 begins.
There are two proposals related to APNIC's IPv4 transfer policy. The
policy that these proposals would amend can be found in Section 3,
"Transfers of IPv4 addresses", in "APNIC transfer, merger, acquisition,
and takeover policy":
http://www.apnic.net/policy/transfer-policy#ipv4
1. Summary of IPv4 transfer policy amendments
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prop-095: Inter-RIR transfer proposal
- Permit IPv4 transfers between APNIC account holders and
organizations with corresponding relationships with other
RIRs, as long as the other RIR also has an inter-RIR
transfer policy that permits transfers with APNIC.
- The transfer policy of the source RIR applies when
conducting inter-RIR transfers.
prop-096: Revision to transfer policy
- Extend the requirement for recipients of transferred IPv4
addresses to justify a need for those resources.
2. Next steps: we need YOU!
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Some initial questions to help the community begin discussion on the
above proposals are:
- What impact would these proposals have if implemented together,
or separately?
- How would continuing the need to justify a transfer during the
final /8 phase affect:
- Other proposed amendments to the final /8 policy (if at all)?
- The ability for APNIC to conduct inter-RIR transfers?
- - Gaurab
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