Hello all,IRT object has never been formally introduced to the APNIC community, hence the absence of any reference to it on our public website. There was an invitation in 2003 to discuss it in APNIC meetings, but the interest was pretty low at that time.
Having said that, APNIC whois which is based on RIPE's whois software has a built-in support for IRT objects.
We currently have 0 (none) irt object registered in APNIC database.APNIC secretariat is following this discussion closely and will, as usual, implement what the community decides.
Cheers, ________________________________________________________________________ Sanjaya email: sanjaya at apnic dot net Services Area Manager, APNIC sip: sanjaya at voip dot apnic dot net http://www.apnic.net phone: +61 7 3858 3100 ________________________________________________________________________ * Sent by email to save paper. Print only if necessary. On 2/02/2010 2:54 PM, stsuruma at bb.softbank dot co dot jp wrote:
Hi Tobias,-----Original Message----- Hi Satoru, that would be easier, but we will have the same problems again. (1) unpopulated IRT Object.yes. but I counld't estimate of these impact, how many members are use IRT object, how much spent to unpopulate it, etc.. We need a comment from APNIC staff about these operations.(2) more than 1 place for the real abuse contact.The description of e-mail field in 'whois -h whois.apnic.net -- "-v person" ' say that e-mail address in a Person Object seems to be filtered if abuse-mailbox is not NULL. (umm,Is it correct?) Is it not enough?(3) possibility of unaccurate data.I think this issue are not solved by both your proposal and my idea. regards, Satoru Tsurumaki Softbank BB Corp.I think this will be a lot of work for APNIC, but it would clean up the db quiet a bit and make things much clearer and easier. Thanks, Tobias stsuruma at bb.softbank dot co dot jp schrieb:Hi Tobias, I agree to clarify the abuse POC. but your idea below, it seems to be many change the whois DB. How about chang the "abuse-mailbox" field to be a mandatory? It will be able to implement with small change to whois DB. -- Satoru Tsurumaki Softbank BB Corp.-----Original Message----- From: sig-policy-bounces at lists dot apnic dot net [mailto:sig-policy-bounces at lists dot apnic dot net] On Behalf Of Tobias Knecht Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 5:41 PM To: sig-policy at lists dot apnic dot net Subject: Re: [sig-policy] prop-079: Abuse contact information (abuse-c) Hallo everybody, first of all thanks to all the people that have joined thediscussionof this proposal. There were loads of good ideas and I have learned a lot about different things. I'm sorry that I have to say, that I made a mistake. I didn't know about the IRT-Object in the APNIC database. I knew aboutAPNIC usingthe same DB as RIPE, but I thought the IRT was notimplemented in theAPNIC database. (Thanks to Terry Manderson) With this knowledge my proposal would have been different. But it is not to late to change the actual proposal. But I want to summarize the discussed things and ask for your opinion and than change the proposal. Makes more sense and saves time. The ideas that will follow are very similar to them we areworking onfor RIPE at the moment. (1) Make the IRT-Object mandatory. (2) Make the abuse-mailbox field within the IRT-Object mandatory. The reason is: e-mail field is the contact address forhumans and theabuse-mailbox field is the contact address for reports. (3) Request frequent updates of the IRT-Object (or more)and "force"owners to publish correct data (check email addresses, ...). (4) Make abuse-mailbox fields unavailable in every other role or person object. Because it's not needed anymore. (5) Make trouble fields unavailable. Because it's notneeded anymore.How about this quit different version? And sorry again for not knowing about the IRT Object. Thanks, Tobias* sig-policy: APNIC SIG on resourcemanagement policy *_______________________________________________ sig-policy mailing list sig-policy at lists dot apnic dot net http://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/sig-policy* sig-policy: APNIC SIG on resource management policy * _______________________________________________ sig-policy mailing list sig-policy at lists dot apnic dot net http://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/sig-policy
- Prev by Date: [sig-policy] Fwd: Accuracy of Whois Data
- Next by Date: Re: [sig-policy] Fwd: Accuracy of Whois Data
- Previous by thread: Re: [sig-policy] prop-079: Abuse contact information (abuse-c)
- Next by thread: Re: [sig-policy] prop-079: Abuse contact information (abuse-c)