Re: [sig-policy] prop-042: Proposal to change IPv6 initial allocation cr
Sorry, I lost track of this email while traveling to Bali for the meeting.
Yesterday when completing my slides for this afternoon meeting, which just
have been uploaded, I took care of this, and this morning I clarified with
the APNIC staff if this change is suitable at this stage, as I'm in favor of
it.
Consequently as you can see in the last slide, I will propose to vote two
options, the one that I originally proposed, and your suggested
modification, but I will like to encourage everyone to agree on this last
one.
Thanks a lot for this suggestion (in fact I did the same change several
weeks ago in the equivalent policy proposal in RIPE NCC, but for some reason
missed it here !).
Regards,
Jordi
> De: Izumi Okutani <izumi at nic dot ad dot jp>
> Responder a: <sig-policy-bounces at lists dot apnic dot net>
> Fecha: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 13:49:36 +0900
> Para: <sig-policy at apnic dot net>
> Asunto: Re: [sig-policy] prop-042: Proposal to change IPv6 initial allocation
> criteria
>
> Jordi and all,
>
>
> Thanks for drafting the proposal.We(JPNIC) support your motivation to
> remove the unintended barrier for initial allocations, but would like to
> suggest some changes.
>
> Our suggestion is to remove the criteria based on no. of assignments
> altogether instead of defining it as "reasonable". We find the word
> could be interpreted in many ways and it makes it more difficult to
> understand the requirement.
>
> We feel it probably won't make a difference from your proposal in
> practice if we add "within two years" requirement after criteria c).
>
> What do you think about it?
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> "plan to provide IPv6 connectivity to organizations to which it will
> make assignments(*), by advertising that connectivity through its
> single aggregated address allocation *within two years*".
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> (*) "/48" description is removed to be consistent with the policy change
>
>
> Izumi
>
> Toshiyuki Hosaka wrote:
>> Dear SIG members
>>
>> The proposal "Proposal to change IPv6 initial allocation criteria" has
>> been sent to the Policy SIG for review. It will be presented at the
>> Policy SIG at APNIC 23 in Bali, Indonesia, 26 February - 2 March 2007.
>> You are invited to review and comment on the proposal on the mailing
>> list before the meeting.
>>
>> The proposal's history can be found at:
>>
>> http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-042-v001.html
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Toshiyuki Hosaka
>> on behalf of Policy SIG chair
>> hosaka at nic dot ad dot jp
>>
>> ________________________________________________________________________
>>
>> prop-042-v001: Proposal to change IPv6 initial allocation criteria
>>
>> ________________________________________________________________________
>>
>>
>> Author: Jordi Palet Martinez, Consulintel
>>
>> Version: 1
>>
>> Date: 22 January 2007
>>
>> SIG: Policy
>>
>>
>>
>> Introduction
>> ------------
>> This policy modification is intended to provide a solution for the
>> lengthy discussions that have taken place in the different regions
>> regarding existing IPv6 policies. It also takes account of the changes
>> that have already taken place in other Regional Internet Registry
>> (RIR) service regions.
>>
>>
>> Summary of the current problem
>> ------------------------------
>> It is clear that there are small Internet Service Providers (ISPs) that
>> do not currently have 200 customers, consequently is not feasible for
>> them to make "at least 200 /48" assignments in two years. It is,
>> however, unfair that these ISPs have no access to IPv6 address space.
>>
>>
>> Situation in other RIRs
>> -----------------------
>> This proposal has also been submitted to ARIN, AfriNIC, LACNIC and RIPE
>> NCC regions.
>>
>> Some of the RIRs don't have already the 200 /48 restriction and have
>> some text that freely allows the hostmaster to consider any submission
>> ("reasonable number").
>>
>>
>>
>> Details
>> -------
>> The following policy changes are proposed for APNIC-089, "IPv6 Address
>> Allocation and Assignment Policy":
>>
>> 1. Initial allocation criteria
>>
>> The following changes are proposed in section 5.1.1 of APNIC-089:
>>
>> a) Remove the need to have a plan to make 200 /48 assignments in
>> two years and replace it with a plan to make a reasonable
>> number of assignments in two years.
>>
>>
>> Pros/Cons
>> ---------
>>
>> Advantages:
>>
>> There have been already clear examples and discussions in different
>> regions about the need for this modification.
>>
>> By setting up this policy, we would avoid creating an unfair
>> situation among different RIR service regions. Other RIRs have
>> already modified the original IPv6 common policy to avoid these
>> barriers.
>>
>> We could possibly say that an arbitrary number of sites in order to
>> qualify for an allocation could be considered illegal in some
>> countries. The APNIC community cannot set policies that could prove
>> unlawful as this could have important implications.
>>
>>
>> Disadvantages:
>>
>> One possible effect of this proposal would be a growth of global
>> routing tables. This is only to be expected when new allocations
>> are made possible under this proposal.
>>
>> Opposing arguments should avoid being unfair to smaller ISPs that
>> could not justify a fixed number of assignments. Such a policy
>> could be seen as irrational and might be comparable with imposing
>> a similar requirement for IPv4 address space allocations, which
>> the community would be unlikely to accept.
>>
>>
>>
>> Effect on APNIC
>> ---------------
>> There may be a small increase in the number of IPv6 allocation requests
>> from LIRs that do not have a plan for 200 customers.
>>
>>
>>
>> Effect on NIRs
>> --------------
>> NIRs may need to adapt their own similar policy. Otherwise, small ISPs
>> may become APNIC LIRs to access an IPv6 prefix.
>>
>> (end of document)
>>
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