Re: [sig-policy] Forwarded reply from Gordon Bader
Philip Smith wrote:
> Hi Gordon,
>
> Just some more (hopefully helpful) comments for expanding your discussion,
> especially when the proposal is presented at APNIC 18...
>
> At 06:27 16/08/2004 -0700, GB wrote:
>
> >If a carrier is routing to dark address space, and continues to ignore
> >requests not to do so, then we as a community should be able to disconnect
> >our routing to them. If we all disconnect to them, then that particular
> >carrier will have nothing to carry. Essentially out of business. That
> >would hopefully force them back in to compliance. That is the basic
> >assumption behind the proposal.
>
> It might be useful to put some suggestion of time limits into this. I know
> this might be considered an implementation detail, but I think that some
> sort of initial timescale discussion will need to be had. How much time
> would we give an RIR member to comply? And if someone has their allocation
> or assignment removed, how long for the other RIR members to comply?
Good questions here! And ones that have needed answering for a number
of years and have not been. Some RIR's may not comply or will at least
drag their feet in complying, depending on the electronic trade agreements
and laws that are applicable to the respective regions in which those RIR's
and LIR's serve.
>
>
> What about a notification mechanism? At the moment, when IANA announces to
> virtually every operations list in existence that they have allocated a new
> /8 block to an RIR, it still seems to takes months for some ISPs to update
> their filters to permit announcements from this new address block into
> their network.
This has been a problem for some time as well that has not really been
adequately addressed. Thanks for reinitiating it.
> Given how hard this seems to be at the moment, I'm wondering
> how hard it is going to be with trying to enforce compliance with blocking
> newly created dark address space?
Very hard without governments support in the form of regulation.
>
>
> philip
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