Re: [sig-policy] SIG Policy Proposal 'Preventing the routing of 'dark'ad
I like your proposal as far as it goes that is. It really doesn't go quite
far enough. Any RIR that allocates address space "Dark" or otherwise,
needs to be under the same sanctions you suggest for ISP's, ect. Hence
leaving the specifics/details of the contract's paramount as to how they
are worded and also how those contracts are applicable under contract
laws of many different national jurisdictions as well as trade agreements
currently in effect governing ecommerce...
In addition your pro's and con's also lacked a bit of important detail,
but were very good in a general sense. These details would need to
include the need to define multihoning for instance, amongst a host
of other considerations which I will be glad to discuss on or off
list, but for the purposes of brevity, am not on this initial response
until I have passed this on to our members.
APNIC Secretariat wrote:
> This proposal is being sent to the mailing list on behalf of Gordon Bader
> <gbader at cox dot net>. Feedback and comments about this proposal are welcome on
> this mailing list.
>
> regards,
> APNIC Secretariat.
> ---
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
>
> prop-023-v001: A proposal to prevent the routing of "dark" address
> space
> ______________________________________________________________________
>
> Proposed by: Gordon Bader
> <gbader at cox dot net>
> Version: 1.0
> Date: 4 August 2004
>
> Introduction:
>
> "Dark" address space is unallocated IP address space. Bandwidth
> originating from "dark" address space should not be routed at any level.
>
> Summary:
>
> Bandwidth originating from unallocated IP address space is being
> used for SPAM. In addition, unallocated IP address space is being
> used to host websites that support SPAM.
>
> APNIC has the ability to grant IP space. Given that ability, it also
> has the inherent ability to remove what was granted. The implicit
> grant of IP space, carries with it the ability to route, and route
> in a "legal" manner. When "illegal" (dark address space) routing is
> detected, then the price should be loss of the initial grant - in this
> case the ability to operate which carries with it economic measures.
>
> Details:
>
> Routing tables should be configured for non routing (filtering) of
> unallocated IP address space as well as allocated IP address space.
> Traffic to and from unallocated (or allocated but unused) IP address
> space should be dropped as soon as recognized, thus saving bandwidth up
> channel.
>
> Employ the basic law - what can be given, can be taken away. APNIC
> should issue a warning first, followed by removal of IP space from the
> offending ISP or entity at what ever level. IP addresses are provided
> under a contract, thus using contract law, removal is possible.
>
> Pros/Cons:
>
> Pros:
> By adopting this policy, bandwidth utilization will be reduced. Criminal
> enterprises will no longer be served.
>
> Cons:
> Disadvantages include new routing tables of increasing complexity
> to handle the non routing issues associated with dark address space
> activities and the associated traffic generated.
>
> Effect on APNIC:
>
> Reduction in bandwidth handled and in it's associated rate of growth.
>
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