Please see my comments below, At 18:36 17/12/03 +0900, Toshiyuki Hosaka wrote:
> We also had a facts that some of this ISP's thatBased on our correspondence with some new ISP's, The problem in here:
> have an allocation, would not gave more than a /26 of IP Address to the new
> ISP's
It's interesting (of course this is a problem.). I would like to know
why they are so reluctant to assign more than /26 IP addresses.
I don't think they will like the subsequent allocation. ISP's in Indonesia are very consevative on IP Address (example: most of them are still using NAT to conserve the Public IP Address).They don't like to request subsequent allocation, or is there any other reason? (maybe finance or difficulties in procedure?)
Best Regards,
Toshi
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From: Ahmad Alkazimy <ahmad at apjii dot or dot id>
Subject: [sig-policy]Re: Proposal to lower the minimum allocation size
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:32:58 +0700
> Hi all,
>
> My name is Ahmad Alkazimy from APJII (NIR in Indonesia). I would like to
> add some comments regarding on the lowering the minimum allocation.
>
> Based on facts in Indonesia, the ISP that are requesting for another
> additional IP Address to APNIC is only arround 16 % from the total APJII
> members. the rest of it, only received an initial allocation (a /20 or a
> /19 for initial allocation at that time) and never came back for additional
> IP Address.
>
> The total number of utilisation (based on the Second Opinion send it by all
> of our members and doesn't include their Infrastructure utilisation) are
> arround 20% from the total almost a /13 IP Address that have been allocated
> to all of our members.
>
> From this figure, we assumed that there are a huge number of IP Address
> that have been wasted. We also had a facts that some of this ISP's that
> have an allocation, would not gave more than a /26 of IP Address to the new
> ISP's ,even the new ISP's initially will need arround /23 or a /22 to meet
> the minimum citeria for an allocation. Even some of them are putting some
> extra charge based per IP Address Assignments.
>
> I think, that's an additional issue regarding on this.
>
> We look forward to hearing from you all,
>
> Regards,
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