Re: [apnic-talk] IP address assignment to third party
Hi Anne,
I understand the policy from this explaination.
Is it complasory to get IPs(allocated portable)from
APNIC only in Asia pecific?
Or can I get it from ARIN,LACNIC,....etc?
Thanks
paku
--- Anne Lord <anne at apnic dot net> wrote: >
> hi Paku,
>
> > Thanks Anne,
> > But now I am confused more. Cause I make whois
> query
> > on two three inetnum,,, and all are Allocated
> Portable
> > assignment.Dose that mean they can assign it to
> anyone
>
> Maybe it is helpful if I explain the difference
> between
> allocation and assignment.
>
> An allocation is a range of addresses that can be
> further
> subdivided. It is given to both customers to address
> their
> networks and used to address equipment in your own
> network.
>
> An assignment is a range of addresses actually *in
> use* on a
> specific network. Assignments must only be made for
> specific,
> documented purposes and may not be sub-assigned.
>
> There is no such thing as an 'Allocated Portable
> assignment' as
> mentioned above. There are both assignments and
> allocations as
> Database entries in the whois database - but they
> are separate
> entities.
>
> Most allocations will be marked 'Allocated
> Portable'. That is,
> the custodian has a range of addresses that they can
> use to
> *assign* to their customers and to themselves for
> their network infrastructure.
> Those customers *must* have connectivity through the
> ISP that has
> the range of addresses (allocation). The idea is
> that the ISP
> aggregates the allocated range into a single prefix
> announcement, usually
> a /20 (which is the minimum allocation size). The
> 'portable' tag only applies
> to the /20 range as a whole. It means the custodian
> of the range
> (say your company) can change upstream provider
> without
> renumbering.
>
> Any assignments customers receive will be marked in
> the whois
> database as 'assigned non-portable'. this means that
> they have
> received assignments from your range (allocation) to
> be used on an actual
> network. They cannot leave you, choose another
> provider, and take
> the addresses with them. They are *not* portable.
> You should enter
> into agreements with your customers which specify
> that they addresses
> are not portable, should they cancel their service
> with you.
>
> This whole idea is in place to support the
> hierarchical aggregation
> of routing information. This is to date, the only
> effective way to
> make the Internet scale, and is critical. It is
> known as CIDR (classless
> inter-domain routing).
>
> > other than their customers(assign,nonportable)???
>
> > Suppose I am apnic member and get /20 Allocated
> > Portable. Than can I assign some space outout
> > it(/22)to my other organisations(my sisterconcern
> > companies but not my customers. And using others
>
> No - you should *definately* be assigning it to your
> customers. You can
> also assign it to your sister companies but only
> *IF* they obtain
> Internet connectivity from you.
>
> > internet serices) and its non-comercial.
>
> Whether you are commerical or not has no bearing on
> where the addresses
> are assigned. The important thing to remember is
> that addresses *must*
> only be assigned to entities that are receiving
> Internet connectivity
> from you.
>
> Does that help? Please dont hesitate to contact me
> or the helpdesk
> if any of this is not clear.
>
> Kind regards,
> Anne
>
_____________________________________________________________________
> Anne Lord, Manager, Policy Liaison
> <anne at apnic dot net>
> Asia Pacific Network Information Centre phone:
> +61 7 3858 3100
> http://www.apnic.net fax:
> +61 7 3858 3199
>
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>
>
>
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