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[wg-pdr] Future of this WG
Hello everybody !
First of all, I would like to thank you all for the great work you have done, 4 proposals are now on the final comment period !
The work of this group is not finished yet, but the group was supposed to be dismantle after the APNIC 52 ... Do you wish to pursue the good work, and maintain the activities of the group ? If not, the talk will go back to only the Policy SIG mailing list, two props were sent back, and one was not initially accepted (Recovery of unused historical resources)
Please do not delay your answer, as I have to report back to the secretariat asap ;-)
Take care,
Best Regards,

Dear Bertrand
I am part of the proposal sent back to the group and now if the group is getting dismantled, the proposals could have been then sent to Policy SIG itself earlier so that during APNIC 52 there would have been some discussion.
It will be helpful to respond if you can confirm that the group can continue even if there is no specific approval to continue taken during APNIC 52.
Regards
-- ________________________________________________________ Anupam Agrawal | India Internet Foundation - Chair | 91 990 399 2838
On 21-Sep-2021, at 11:35 AM, Bertrand Cherrier b.cherrier@micrologic.nc wrote:
Hello everybody !
First of all, I would like to thank you all for the great work you have done, 4 proposals are now on the final comment period !
The work of this group is not finished yet, but the group was supposed to be dismantle after the APNIC 52 ... Do you wish to pursue the good work, and maintain the activities of the group ? If not, the talk will go back to only the Policy SIG mailing list, two props were sent back, and one was not initially accepted (Recovery of unused historical resources)
Please do not delay your answer, as I have to report back to the secretariat asap ;-)
Take care,
Best Regards,
-- Cordialement, ___________________________________________ Bertrand Cherrier Administration Systèmes - R&D Micro Logic Systems https://www.mls.nc Tél : +687 24 99 24 VoIP : 65 24 99 24 SAV : +687 36 67 76 (58F/min) _______________________________________________ [wg-pdr] Policy Document Review Working Group mailing list -- wg-pdr@apnic.net To unsubscribe send an email to wg-pdr-leave@apnic.net

Happy to continue in the Policy SIG mailing list, and dismantle this one.
Regards,
Arash Naderpour
On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 4:05 PM Bertrand Cherrier b.cherrier@micrologic.nc wrote:
Hello everybody !
First of all, I would like to thank you all for the great work you have done, 4 proposals are now on the final comment period !
The work of this group is not finished yet, but the group was supposed to be dismantle after the APNIC 52 ... Do you wish to pursue the good work, and maintain the activities of the group ? If not, the talk will go back to only the Policy SIG mailing list, two props were sent back, and one was not initially accepted (Recovery of unused historical resources)
Please do not delay your answer, as I have to report back to the secretariat asap ;-)
Take care,
Best Regards,
-- Cordialement, ___________________________________________ Bertrand Cherrier Administration Systèmes - R&D Micro Logic Systems https://www.mls.nc Tél : +687 24 99 24 VoIP : 65 24 99 24 SAV : +687 36 67 76 (58F/min) _______________________________________________ [wg-pdr] Policy Document Review Working Group mailing list -- wg-pdr@apnic.net To unsubscribe send an email to wg-pdr-leave@apnic.net

Either way works for me, but maybe we can get more inputs (more participants) in the SIG list, especially on possible contradicting proposals ...
Regards, Jordi @jordipalet
?El 21/9/21 8:05, "Bertrand Cherrier" b.cherrier@micrologic.nc escribió:
Hello everybody !
First of all, I would like to thank you all for the great work you have done, 4 proposals are now on the final comment period !
The work of this group is not finished yet, but the group was supposed to be dismantle after the APNIC 52 ... Do you wish to pursue the good work, and maintain the activities of the group ? If not, the talk will go back to only the Policy SIG mailing list, two props were sent back, and one was not initially accepted (Recovery of unused historical resources)
Please do not delay your answer, as I have to report back to the secretariat asap ;-)
Take care,
Best Regards,
-- Cordialement, ___________________________________________ Bertrand Cherrier Administration Systèmes - R&D Micro Logic Systems https://www.mls.nc Tél : +687 24 99 24 VoIP : 65 24 99 24 SAV : +687 36 67 76 (58F/min) _______________________________________________ [wg-pdr] Policy Document Review Working Group mailing list -- wg-pdr@apnic.net To unsubscribe send an email to wg-pdr-leave@apnic.net
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One possible option could be in case there are different proposals on same issue proposed by WG members, we deliberate on the issues a bit more in the WG first to understand the different perspectives.
Once the discussion matures and when there is some consensus or even if there are some differences post discussions, we take it to the SIG list for more deliberation.
Regards,
Amrita
-----Original Message----- From: Jordi Palet Martínez via [wg-pdr] Policy Document Review Working Group wg-pdr@apnic.net Sent: 21 September 2021 12:57 To: Bertrand Cherrier b.cherrier@micrologic.nc; wg-pdr@apnic.net Subject: [wg-pdr] Re: Future of this WG
Either way works for me, but maybe we can get more inputs (more participants) in the SIG list, especially on possible contradicting proposals ...
Regards, Jordi @jordipalet
?El 21/9/21 8:05, "Bertrand Cherrier" b.cherrier@micrologic.nc escribió:
Hello everybody !
First of all, I would like to thank you all for the great work you have done, 4 proposals are now on the final comment period !
The work of this group is not finished yet, but the group was supposed to be dismantle after the APNIC 52 ... Do you wish to pursue the good work, and maintain the activities of the group ? If not, the talk will go back to only the Policy SIG mailing list, two props were sent back, and one was not initially accepted (Recovery of unused historical resources)
Please do not delay your answer, as I have to report back to the secretariat asap ;-)
Take care,
Best Regards,
-- Cordialement, ___________________________________________ Bertrand Cherrier Administration Systèmes - R&D Micro Logic Systems https://www.mls.nc Tél : +687 24 99 24 VoIP : 65 24 99 24 SAV : +687 36 67 76 (58F/min) _______________________________________________ [wg-pdr] Policy Document Review Working Group mailing list -- wg-pdr@apnic.net To unsubscribe send an email to wg-pdr-leave@apnic.net
********************************************** IPv4 is over Are you ready for the new Internet ? http://www.theipv6company.com The IPv6 Company
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Actually, I think it is perfectly fine to submit two contradictory proposals. I did myself sometimes.
For example: 1) Proposal A: Cancel the experimental IPv4 resources, because there is no more IPv4 addresses, and consequently no meaning for new experiments, and if there is a real need for an IPv4 experiment, that can't be used with private or reserved IETF space, then it can be obtained from the NREN, a RIR, etc. 2) Proposal B: Keep them in certain conditions.
This way, the community can decide which one is the most acceptable path, checking pros/cons of each one.
Regards, Jordi @jordipalet
?El 21/9/21 11:10, "Amrita Choudhury" amritachoudhury@ccaoi.in escribió:
One possible option could be in case there are different proposals on same issue proposed by WG members, we deliberate on the issues a bit more in the WG first to understand the different perspectives.
Once the discussion matures and when there is some consensus or even if there are some differences post discussions, we take it to the SIG list for more deliberation.
Regards,
Amrita
-----Original Message----- From: Jordi Palet Martínez via [wg-pdr] Policy Document Review Working Group wg-pdr@apnic.net Sent: 21 September 2021 12:57 To: Bertrand Cherrier b.cherrier@micrologic.nc; wg-pdr@apnic.net Subject: [wg-pdr] Re: Future of this WG
Either way works for me, but maybe we can get more inputs (more participants) in the SIG list, especially on possible contradicting proposals ...
Regards, Jordi @jordipalet
?El 21/9/21 8:05, "Bertrand Cherrier" b.cherrier@micrologic.nc escribió:
Hello everybody !
First of all, I would like to thank you all for the great work you have done, 4 proposals are now on the final comment period !
The work of this group is not finished yet, but the group was supposed to be dismantle after the APNIC 52 ... Do you wish to pursue the good work, and maintain the activities of the group ? If not, the talk will go back to only the Policy SIG mailing list, two props were sent back, and one was not initially accepted (Recovery of unused historical resources)
Please do not delay your answer, as I have to report back to the secretariat asap ;-)
Take care,
Best Regards,
-- Cordialement, ___________________________________________ Bertrand Cherrier Administration Systèmes - R&D Micro Logic Systems https://www.mls.nc Tél : +687 24 99 24 VoIP : 65 24 99 24 SAV : +687 36 67 76 (58F/min) _______________________________________________ [wg-pdr] Policy Document Review Working Group mailing list -- wg-pdr@apnic.net To unsubscribe send an email to wg-pdr-leave@apnic.net
********************************************** IPv4 is over Are you ready for the new Internet ? http://www.theipv6company.com The IPv6 Company
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Hi Betrand,
As we were working specifically on specific issues identified in the review report, it would be good if we could continue the WG and conclude the task related to the observations and concerns before dismantling the group.
Rest is the call of the community and the chairs,
Regards,
Amrita
-----Original Message----- From: Bertrand Cherrier b.cherrier@micrologic.nc Sent: 21 September 2021 11:35 To: wg-pdr@apnic.net Subject: [wg-pdr] Future of this WG
Hello everybody !
First of all, I would like to thank you all for the great work you have done, 4 proposals are now on the final comment period !
The work of this group is not finished yet, but the group was supposed to be dismantle after the APNIC 52 ... Do you wish to pursue the good work, and maintain the activities of the group ? If not, the talk will go back to only the Policy SIG mailing list, two props were sent back, and one was not initially accepted (Recovery of unused historical resources)
Please do not delay your answer, as I have to report back to the secretariat asap ;-)
Take care,
Best Regards,
-- Cordialement, ___________________________________________ Bertrand Cherrier Administration Systèmes - R&D Micro Logic Systems https://www.mls.nc Tél : +687 24 99 24 VoIP : 65 24 99 24 SAV : +687 36 67 76 (58F/min) _______________________________________________ [wg-pdr] Policy Document Review Working Group mailing list -- wg-pdr@apnic.net To unsubscribe send an email to wg-pdr-leave@apnic.net

Bonjour,
As the Chair and almost every member of this (very good) working group want to continue, the Policy SIG Chairs have agreed to keep this WG active at least until APNIC53.
We ask the secretariat to update the WG webpage and all other documents in that way.
Be safe,
Have a nice day,
Le 21/09/2021 à 17:05, Bertrand Cherrier a écrit :
Hello everybody !
First of all, I would like to thank you all for the great work you have done, 4 proposals are now on the final comment period !
The work of this group is not finished yet, but the group was supposed to be dismantle after the APNIC 52 ... Do you wish to pursue the good work, and maintain the activities of the group ? If not, the talk will go back to only the Policy SIG mailing list, two props were sent back, and one was not initially accepted (Recovery of unused historical resources)
Please do not delay your answer, as I have to report back to the secretariat asap ;-)
Take care,
Best Regards,

Thank you Bertrand.
With the support of the SIG Chairs, we hope to complete our task by APNIC53.
Regards,
Amrita
-----Original Message----- From: Bertrand Cherrier b.cherrier@micrologic.nc Sent: 23 September 2021 06:33 To: wg-pdr@apnic.net Subject: [wg-pdr] Re: Future of this WG
Bonjour,
As the Chair and almost every member of this (very good) working group want to continue, the Policy SIG Chairs have agreed to keep this WG active at least until APNIC53.
We ask the secretariat to update the WG webpage and all other documents in that way.
Be safe,
Have a nice day,
Le 21/09/2021 à 17:05, Bertrand Cherrier a écrit :
Hello everybody !
First of all, I would like to thank you all for the great work you have done, 4 proposals are now on the final comment period !
The work of this group is not finished yet, but the group was supposed to be dismantle after the APNIC 52 ... Do you wish to pursue the good work, and maintain the activities of the group ? If not, the talk will go back to only the Policy SIG mailing list, two props were sent back, and one was not initially accepted (Recovery of unused historical resources)
Please do not delay your answer, as I have to report back to the secretariat asap ;-)
Take care,
Best Regards,
-- Cordialement, ___________________________________________ Bertrand Cherrier Administration Systèmes - R&D Micro Logic Systems https://www.mls.nc Tél : +687 24 99 24 VoIP : 65 24 99 24 SAV : +687 36 67 76 (58F/min) _______________________________________________ [wg-pdr] Policy Document Review Working Group mailing list -- wg-pdr@apnic.net To unsubscribe send an email to wg-pdr-leave@apnic.net

Dear WG Chairs and Members,
Thanks for your great work at APNIC 52 OPM. Four of your proposals have reached consensus and are now in the final call for comments on the Policy SIG mailing list. Congratulations!
But, this WG task is not completed yet and so the SIG Chairs have decided to extend the WG timeline to APNIC 53 OPM in February 2022.
We've updated the WG details with this extension as well as referenced APNIC 52 WG report and outcomes here: https://www.apnic.net/community/participate/sigs/wgs/
Best Regards, Sunny
On 23/09/2021 11:27 am, Amrita Choudhury wrote:
Thank you Bertrand.
With the support of the SIG Chairs, we hope to complete our task by APNIC53.
Regards,
Amrita
-----Original Message----- From: Bertrand Cherrier b.cherrier@micrologic.nc Sent: 23 September 2021 06:33 To: wg-pdr@apnic.net Subject: [wg-pdr] Re: Future of this WG
Bonjour,
As the Chair and almost every member of this (very good) working group want to continue, the Policy SIG Chairs have agreed to keep this WG active at least until APNIC53.
We ask the secretariat to update the WG webpage and all other documents in that way.
Be safe,
Have a nice day,
Le 21/09/2021 à 17:05, Bertrand Cherrier a écrit :
Hello everybody !
First of all, I would like to thank you all for the great work you have done, 4 proposals are now on the final comment period !
The work of this group is not finished yet, but the group was supposed to be dismantle after the APNIC 52 ... Do you wish to pursue the good work, and maintain the activities of the group ? If not, the talk will go back to only the Policy SIG mailing list, two props were sent back, and one was not initially accepted (Recovery of unused historical resources)
Please do not delay your answer, as I have to report back to the secretariat asap ;-)
Take care,
Best Regards,
-- Cordialement, ___________________________________________ Bertrand Cherrier Administration Systèmes - R&D Micro Logic Systems https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mls.nc... Tél : +687 24 99 24 VoIP : 65 24 99 24 SAV : +687 36 67 76 (58F/min) _______________________________________________ [wg-pdr] Policy Document Review Working Group mailing list -- wg-pdr@apnic.net To unsubscribe send an email to wg-pdr-leave@apnic.net _______________________________________________ [wg-pdr] Policy Document Review Working Group mailing list -- wg-pdr@apnic.net To unsubscribe send an email to wg-pdr-leave@apnic.net

Thank you Sunny.
Regards,
Amrita
-----Original Message----- From: Srinivas (Sunny) Chendi sunny@apnic.net Sent: 23 September 2021 07:08 To: wg-pdr@apnic.net Subject: [wg-pdr] Re: Future of this WG
Dear WG Chairs and Members,
Thanks for your great work at APNIC 52 OPM. Four of your proposals have reached consensus and are now in the final call for comments on the Policy SIG mailing list. Congratulations!
But, this WG task is not completed yet and so the SIG Chairs have decided to extend the WG timeline to APNIC 53 OPM in February 2022.
We've updated the WG details with this extension as well as referenced APNIC 52 WG report and outcomes here: https://www.apnic.net/community/participate/sigs/wgs/
Best Regards, Sunny
On 23/09/2021 11:27 am, Amrita Choudhury wrote:
Thank you Bertrand.
With the support of the SIG Chairs, we hope to complete our task by APNIC53.
Regards,
Amrita
-----Original Message----- From: Bertrand Cherrier b.cherrier@micrologic.nc Sent: 23 September 2021 06:33 To: wg-pdr@apnic.net Subject: [wg-pdr] Re: Future of this WG
Bonjour,
As the Chair and almost every member of this (very good) working group want to continue, the Policy SIG Chairs have agreed to keep this WG active at least until APNIC53.
We ask the secretariat to update the WG webpage and all other documents in that way.
Be safe,
Have a nice day,
Le 21/09/2021 à 17:05, Bertrand Cherrier a écrit :
Hello everybody !
First of all, I would like to thank you all for the great work you have done, 4 proposals are now on the final comment period !
The work of this group is not finished yet, but the group was supposed to be dismantle after the APNIC 52 ... Do you wish to pursue the good work, and maintain the activities of the group ? If not, the talk will go back to only the Policy SIG mailing list, two props were sent back, and one was not initially accepted (Recovery of unused historical resources)
Please do not delay your answer, as I have to report back to the secretariat asap ;-)
Take care,
Best Regards,
-- Cordialement, ___________________________________________ Bertrand Cherrier Administration Systèmes - R&D Micro Logic Systems https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww. mls.nc%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cf04dcf4609ff411ddde008d97e314ecd%7C127 d8d0d7ccf473dab096e44ad752ded%7C0%7C0%7C637679572635065752%7CUnknown%7 CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXV CI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=sVIig7RXsv%2F6V2DAPHOWb43%2Fn8dyj3pU0bBEzbH uK3w%3D&reserved=0 Tél : +687 24 99 24 VoIP : 65 24 99 24 SAV : +687 36 67 76 (58F/min) _______________________________________________ [wg-pdr] Policy Document Review Working Group mailing list -- wg-pdr@apnic.net To unsubscribe send an email to wg-pdr-leave@apnic.net _______________________________________________ [wg-pdr] Policy Document Review Working Group mailing list -- wg-pdr@apnic.net To unsubscribe send an email to wg-pdr-leave@apnic.net
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