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On 30/05/11 Mon, May 30, 18:11, Randy Bush wrote:

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APNIC has now reached the final stage of IPv4 exhaustion and is now distributing IPv4 addresses according to the final /8 policies.

was that really the case? looking at geoff's numbers, it appears as if the trigger may be been pulled a little early. could the secretariat comment?

randy

I have asked the Secretariat for more information on this. Are there specific points you want me to raise with them.

andy

Dear Andy, Randy and all,

APNIC's available IPv4 address space can be monitored here:

http://www.apnic.net/ipv4-exhaustion/graphs

The detailed status of all resources held by APNIC is available here:

ftp://ftp.apnic.net/public/stats/apnic/

Of particular interest is the report generated on 15 April 2011, the date APNIC declared that we have entered Stage 3 of the IPv4 exhaustion plan:

ftp://ftp.apnic.net/public/stats/apnic/2011/delegated-apnic-extended-20110415.gz

APNIC declared the final /8 policy effective when it had distributed all the IPv4 address space that was available at that time. The report can confirm that the only available blocks on that date were from APNIC's last /8 (103/8).

At that time, the resources held by APNIC, but not available for distribution, were as follows:

• 4,686,848 addresses (approximately 0.28 x /8) are historical address blocks returned to APNIC, which are being held until there is clear guidance from global policy. These were never allocated to APNIC and not under our authority to reallocate, therefore they are not considered part of the APNIC pool.

• 337,664 addresses (approximately 0.02 x /8) constitute returned space under the membership closure grace period and quarantine. Once released, this space will be added to the final /8 pool in accordance with prop-88.

• 16 approved delegations to new members pending payment were temporarily registered to the ‘APNIC Debogon Project’. This includes the 39.192.0.0/10 highlighted in the NANOG mailing list.

A complete report on the Stage 3 implementation, including the issues explained above, will be presented at APNIC 32 in Busan.

Please do let us know if you have any further questions.

Regards, ________________________________________________________________________ Sanjaya email: sanjaya@apnic.net Services Director, APNIC sip: sanjaya@voip.apnic.net http://www.apnic.net phone: +61 7 3858 3100 ________________________________________________________________________ * Sent by email to save paper. Print only if necessary.

On 31/05/2011 4:52 PM, Randy Bush wrote:

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APNIC has now reached the final stage of IPv4 exhaustion and is now distributing IPv4 addresses according to the final /8 policies.

was that really the case? looking at geoff's numbers, it appears as if the trigger may be been pulled a little early. could the secretariat comment?

I have asked the Secretariat for more information on this. Are there specific points you want me to raise with them.

start with

http://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2011-April/035234.html

and then read up on TEPCO and whitewashing techniques :)

randy

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Hi Randy,

There are 3 types of historical resources as defined in section 2.2 of the document:

http://www.apnic.net/policy/historical-resource-policies#2.2

APNIC redistributes the following types of reclaimed historical resources, which are listed in IANA as being delegated to APNIC:

* Registrations transferred to APNIC as part of the AUNIC to APNIC migration, and * Historical APNIC resources (delegated by APNIC before the establishment of a membership structure)

We do not redistribute reclaimed historical resources of the following type as they are listed in IANA as LEGACY:

* Registrations transferred as part of the Early Registration Transfer (ERX) project

APNIC is holding these resources pending its return to IANA subject to an agreed mechanism for doing so.

Regards, Sanjaya

On 1/06/2011 6:45 PM, Randy Bush wrote:

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. 4,686,848 addresses (approximately 0.28 x /8) are historical address blocks returned to APNIC, which are being held until there is clear guidance from global policy. These were never allocated to APNIC and not under our authority to reallocate, therefore they are not considered part of the APNIC pool.

hi sanjaya,

i am confused how this relates to http://www.apnic.net/policy/historical-resource-policies, section 5. but i am easily confused.

we seem not to be including those particular historical resources in the apnic pool, yet claim all the other historical resources as apnic's (even if they haven't been reclaimed, or if they were transferred to an apnic member under Transfer of historical Internet resources, http://www.apnic.net/policy/transfer-policy#transfer.

policy is complex and so consistency is non-trivial. but we count on the secretariat to have that overview and oversight.

randy