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prop-095: Inter-RIR IPv4 address transfer proposal _______________________________________________________________________
Dear SIG members
Below is a summary of discussions on the proposal to date. We encourage you to continue discussions on the mailing list before the Policy SIG.
Regards,
Gaurab, Ching-Heng, and Terence
Proposal summary - ----------------
This is a proposal to allow and define a mechanism for the transfer of IPv4 address space between APNIC account holders and organizations in other RIR region(s), providing that the counterpart RIR has a policy that allows transfers of address space with APNIC account holders.
Discussion statistics - ---------------------
Version 1 posted to Policy SIG mailing list: 25 January 2011
Number of posts since proposal first posted: 11
Number of people participating in discussions: 6
Summary of discussion to date - -----------------------------
- There was some opposition to the proposal because it does nothing to encourage IPv6 adoption and could complicate RIR-based Geolocation tools and filtering
- There was a warning that without a transfer policy, transfers will still take place, either openly or under the table. In light of the difficulties regulating transfers, the best we can hope to do is to maintain the integrity of our registry
- An opinion was put forward that organizations would avoid address space with 'dubious origins', but that a market with limited supply and no rules is a market begging to be manipulated. This person tentatively supported the intent of the proposal, but was looking for modifications in which RIRs allocation policies should be met and by whom.
http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-095
Just a comment on geo-location. Any geo-location service that relies primarily on any RIR whois data is fundamentally broken. Geo-location is typically comprised of multiple technologies that end up referencing each other. If I had to rate the validity of whois data as part of the geo-location food chain I'd argue that it would be fifth on a list of five inputs. It's nice if it sync's up with the other inputs, but if it doesn't its not likely to dramatically impact anything.
And as I had mentioned, "tentative support". After reading Randy's comment, tentative support for the context of the "policies", not specifically tied to anyone or a single method.
Best,
-M<
On 2/22/11 8:50 PM, "Gaurab Raj Upadhaya" gaurab@lahai.com wrote:
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prop-095: Inter-RIR IPv4 address transfer proposal _______________________________________________________________________
Dear SIG members
Below is a summary of discussions on the proposal to date. We encourage you to continue discussions on the mailing list before the Policy SIG.
Regards,
Gaurab, Ching-Heng, and Terence
Proposal summary
This is a proposal to allow and define a mechanism for the transfer of IPv4 address space between APNIC account holders and organizations in other RIR region(s), providing that the counterpart RIR has a policy that allows transfers of address space with APNIC account holders.
Discussion statistics
Version 1 posted to Policy SIG mailing list: 25 January 2011
Number of posts since proposal first posted: 11
Number of people participating in discussions: 6
Summary of discussion to date
There was some opposition to the proposal because it does nothing to encourage IPv6 adoption and could complicate RIR-based Geolocation tools and filtering
There was a warning that without a transfer policy, transfers will still take place, either openly or under the table. In light of the difficulties regulating transfers, the best we can hope to do is to maintain the integrity of our registry
An opinion was put forward that organizations would avoid address space with 'dubious origins', but that a market with limited supply and no rules is a market begging to be manipulated. This person tentatively supported the intent of the proposal, but was looking for modifications in which RIRs allocation policies should be met and by whom.
http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-095
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