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You raise 2 specific issues which are getting more attention now, both inside and outside the RIR communities. First is the issue of IPv4 exhaustion, which leads to the second, of the emergence of IP address trading in some form or other. They are separate matters, but possibly linked.
The NRO executive council (namely the CEOs of the RIRs) has recently discussed the need for an NRO position or paper of some kind about the first issue. And such a paper will have to address the possibility and implications of trading, though not in definitive detail at this time (for the reasons you mention). The NRO has produced such issue papers previously, and used these as the basis advice we have given to forums such as the ICANN Government Advisory Committee, and WSIS, WGIG and IGF meetings.
I'm sure we will produce something in the course of the next month or so. The meeting in Bali and discussions about the "countdown" proposal will inform that activity, certainly in terms of the APNIC contribution at least, and there will be ongoing discussions I am sure, as other RIR meetings also address these topics, in some form or other, during the coming year.
There is no need for any policy proposal in order for the APNIC secretariat to take on this type of activity; however I will take whatever guidance and/or direction that I can, from the coming member meeting and from discussions such as this.
Offers of help will be gratefully received, but I think the appropriate mode for member input would be through something like a working group, if one were to emerge from the coming meeting.
--On Tuesday, 20 February 2007 2:36 PM +1100 Nick Hannaford firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
It strikes me that no matter what IPv4 "countdown policy" APNIC and the other RIRs adopt (if any), a more significant issue becomes evident once APNIC's IPv4 address pool is exhausted.
It's likely that IPv6 will not be universally adopted by then, and that many ISP's will still have product portfolios and large customer bases positioned on an IPv4 platform. Presumably these ISPs will still require access to IPv4 addresses, and in the absence of the RIR channel they will be forced to purchase IPv4 "assets" from other players. My view is that these assets will hold a value for a period of time until IPv6 becomes the main stream, however long that takes.
We can either sit back and let this trading just take place (unwise IMO given the risks of grey or black markets emerging) or we can ensure that APNIC (and other RIRs) have a role to play in ensuring orderly transfer and that a respected and obvious framework of clear "title" is in place.
I do not believe that now is the time to be constructing specific policies relating to address trading simply because right now we don't know all of the aspects of this activity. But even without specific policy proposals right now there appears to me to be a real need to examine the available options for APNIC's role in such a trading environment and the pros and cons in each case. I suggest that APNIC, and the APNIC membership, need to start working out now what role APNIC should undertake in this post IPv4 run out world.
I understand the certification work for secure routing is underway, it appears to be a good first step in a mechanism of address "ownership" in the routing realm. The next requirement is that the RIRs need to track who owns these address to stop the creation of "black registries". I am not proposing APNIC provide a trading platform, just the ability to certify the transfer of IPv4 address between parties. Obviously this could be extended universally across the RIRs to ensure a global scheme could work across the various regions.
Son / Paul: to get the APNIC Secretariat to study this topic and report to the membership do we need to adopt a specific policy? It seems early days for policies but the right time to commence the studies into this topic. So how can APNIC members such as myself assist the Secretariat to conduct such a study at this point in time?
Regards Nick Hannaford
________________________________________________________________________ Paul Wilson email: email@example.com Director General, APNIC sip: firstname.lastname@example.org http://www.apnic.net phone: +61 7 3858 3100