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Hello everybody,
What do you think about this? How could that exactly look like?
I would say, that it would be helpful to send an email twice a year, things could change quickly, but a monthly email will maybe generate some kind of frustration on he receiver.
The mail should include a backlink the recipient has to click. Having a backlink could easily generate statistics on APNICs side. APNIC can then track non-answering ISPs.
Is there a need to request updates for every single object?
It would maybe be helpful to summarize all objects that have the same addresses into just one email.
Which would be the right address to send these requests to?
Surely the abuse address included in the objects.
Please consider a descend time for ISPs to answer anyway. Mails could be lost because of spam filters or not beeing answered because of holidays ... Resending it after one week could also be helpful.
The mail could be resend to the ISPs main address, if the address in the object fails with "User unknown" or if there is no reaction after 2 weeks to the object address.
A final notice (before any punishment happens) could be send via letter mail including a final schedule to react.
Is there a need for feedback even if there is nothing to change?
Yes, the backlink should be clicked to ensure that there is still a person reading emails under the address included in the object.
For example not delegate new ranges to the Netrange Owner in question until data is accurate.
Yes, this could be a first step, if the ISP main address also fails with no reaction.
The "punishment" of not delegating new ranges could have no effect on members that do not need new ranges very often, so I would consider further methods for really non-cooperative members, like:
- removing the reverse-mappings of the ISP ranges (what will cause the ISP not being able to send mails anymore, because most receiving mailservers do not accept mails from servers without a matching reverse mapping) - removing the according route objects of the ISP - removing the according allocation of the ISP - finally you could kick the ISP out of APNIC ;o)
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