Keyboard Shortcuts
Thread View
j
: Next unread messagek
: Previous unread messagej a
: Jump to all threadsj l
: Jump to MailingList overview

Dear SIG members,
A new version of the proposal "prop-147: Historical Resources Management" has been sent to the Policy SIG for review.
It will be presented at the Open Policy Meeting (OPM) at APNIC 55 on Wednesday, 1 March 2023.
https://conference.apnic.net/55/program/schedule/#/day/10
We invite you to review and comment on the proposal on the mailing list before the OPM.
The comment period on the mailing list before the OPM is an important part of the Policy Development Process (PDP). We encourage you to express your views on the proposal:
- Do you support or oppose this proposal? - Does this proposal solve a problem you are experiencing? If so, tell the community about your situation. - Do you see any disadvantages in this proposal? - Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear? - What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more effective?
Information about this proposal is appended below as well as available at:
http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-147
Regards, Bertrand, Shaila, and Anupam APNIC Policy SIG Chairs
---------------------------------------------------------------
prop-147-v004: Historical Resources Management
----------------------------------------------------------------
Proposer: Jordi Palet Martinez (jordi.palet@theipv6company.comAnupam)
1. Problem statement -------------------- Section 4.2.1 is outdated and only looking for very old non-routed resources.
The recent EC resolution (22nd February 2022), imply that historical resource holders in the APNIC region would need to become Members or Non-Members by 1st January 2023 in order to continue to receive registration services. Failing this, historical resource registration will no longer be published in the APNIC Whois Database and said resources will be placed into reserved status.
Per current policies, all current and historical resources that are marked as reserved are automatically added to the AS0.
Given the continued need for IPv4 addresses, it would seem illogical to keep these unused historical resources in reserve indefinitely. Alternatively, these resources can be used in a way that is sufficiently justified in accordance with existing policies, allowing other organizations to benefit from them during the IPv6 transition.
2. Objective of policy change ----------------------------- Ensure that historical IPv4 resources are justified and claimed, or that they are available for other organizations that require them.
If the resources are marked as reserved, the original holders may reclaim them with a valid justification, when APNIC failed to contact them for whatever reason.
One example of a valid justification is the case where an organization is actually using them internally and there are valid reasons to instead use RFC1918 space, however the space is not routed.
To give the original resource holders more time to reclaim them, and ensure that APNIC has no challenges in finalizing the work, we propose a time-frame of 12 months.
3. Situation in other regions ----------------------------- In several of the other RIRs legacy resources lose their legacy status when the RSA is signed (upon receiving other resources), so they become under the regular monitoring. In other cases, there is nothing specified by policies.
4. Proposed policy solution --------------------------- Actual text: (to be removed) 4.2.1. Recovery of unused historical resources To recover these globally un-routed resources and place them back in the free pool for re-delegation, APNIC will contact networks responsible for historical address space in the APNIC region that has not been globally routed since 1 January 1998. To recover un-routed historical AS numbers, APNIC will contact networks responsible for resources not globally used for a reasonable period of time.
Proposed text:
4.3. Claiming and re-delegating historical resources Historical resources that are no longer published in the APNIC Whois Database and are placed in reserved status because of EC resolution 2021-09 of 22 February 2021 (https://www.apnic.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/FINAL_merged_EC_meeting_min...), can be claimed by the custodians within 12 months of the date they were marked as reserved.
After 12 months, these resources will be placed in the free pool for re-delegation.
Any historical resources marked as reserved and/or reclaimed by APNIC due to account closures will lose their “historical” status and become “current” resources for re-delegation.
5. Advantages / Disadvantages ----------------------------- Advantages: Fulfilling the objective above indicated by allowing further 12 months for reclaiming the historical resources.
Returning resources to RIR for reallocation providing additional number of IPv4 resources to be allocated in the future.
Disadvantages: None.
6. Impact on resource holders ----------------------------- None.
7. References ------------- None.

Hi all,
Just wanted to clarify that this new version is not changing what has been discussed about the previous version, it is just to follow the secretariat Impact Assessment recommendations.
In other words, this version doesn’t mean any practical change from the previous version, just accommodated a shorter and clearer text and introduces a direct link to the EC resolution, which is needed because in moths, the EC resolution will not be so easy to find in the top postings of the APNIC site, etc.
Please let me know if you have any further questions or issues with this version.
Tks!
Regards, Jordi
@jordipalet
El 28 feb 2023, a las 11:37, Bertrand Cherrier b.cherrier@mynet.nc escribió:
Dear SIG members,
A new version of the proposal "prop-147: Historical Resources Management" has been sent to the Policy SIG for review.
It will be presented at the Open Policy Meeting (OPM) at APNIC 55 on Wednesday, 1 March 2023.
https://conference.apnic.net/55/program/schedule/#/day/10
We invite you to review and comment on the proposal on the mailing list before the OPM.
The comment period on the mailing list before the OPM is an important part of the Policy Development Process (PDP). We encourage you to express your views on the proposal:
- Do you support or oppose this proposal?
- Does this proposal solve a problem you are experiencing? If so, tell the community about your situation.
- Do you see any disadvantages in this proposal?
- Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear?
- What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more effective?
Information about this proposal is appended below as well as available at:
http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-147
Regards, Bertrand, Shaila, and Anupam APNIC Policy SIG Chairs
prop-147-v004: Historical Resources Management
Proposer: Jordi Palet Martinez (jordi.palet@theipv6company.comAnupam)
- Problem statement
Section 4.2.1 is outdated and only looking for very old non-routed resources.
The recent EC resolution (22nd February 2022), imply that historical resource holders in the APNIC region would need to become Members or Non-Members by 1st January 2023 in order to continue to receive registration services. Failing this, historical resource registration will no longer be published in the APNIC Whois Database and said resources will be placed into reserved status.
Per current policies, all current and historical resources that are marked as reserved are automatically added to the AS0.
Given the continued need for IPv4 addresses, it would seem illogical to keep these unused historical resources in reserve indefinitely. Alternatively, these resources can be used in a way that is sufficiently justified in accordance with existing policies, allowing other organizations to benefit from them during the IPv6 transition.
- Objective of policy change
Ensure that historical IPv4 resources are justified and claimed, or that they are available for other organizations that require them.
If the resources are marked as reserved, the original holders may reclaim them with a valid justification, when APNIC failed to contact them for whatever reason.
One example of a valid justification is the case where an organization is actually using them internally and there are valid reasons to instead use RFC1918 space, however the space is not routed.
To give the original resource holders more time to reclaim them, and ensure that APNIC has no challenges in finalizing the work, we propose a time-frame of 12 months.
- Situation in other regions
In several of the other RIRs legacy resources lose their legacy status when the RSA is signed (upon receiving other resources), so they become under the regular monitoring. In other cases, there is nothing specified by policies.
- Proposed policy solution
Actual text: (to be removed) 4.2.1. Recovery of unused historical resources To recover these globally un-routed resources and place them back in the free pool for re-delegation, APNIC will contact networks responsible for historical address space in the APNIC region that has not been globally routed since 1 January 1998. To recover un-routed historical AS numbers, APNIC will contact networks responsible for resources not globally used for a reasonable period of time.
Proposed text:
4.3. Claiming and re-delegating historical resources Historical resources that are no longer published in the APNIC Whois Database and are placed in reserved status because of EC resolution 2021-09 of 22 February 2021 (https://www.apnic.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/FINAL_merged_EC_meeting_min...), can be claimed by the custodians within 12 months of the date they were marked as reserved.
After 12 months, these resources will be placed in the free pool for re-delegation.
Any historical resources marked as reserved and/or reclaimed by APNIC due to account closures will lose their “historical” status and become “current” resources for re-delegation.
- Advantages / Disadvantages
Advantages: Fulfilling the objective above indicated by allowing further 12 months for reclaiming the historical resources.
Returning resources to RIR for reallocation providing additional number of IPv4 resources to be allocated in the future.
Disadvantages: None.
- Impact on resource holders
None.
- References
None.
sig-policy - https://mailman.apnic.net/sig-policy@lists.apnic.net/ To unsubscribe send an email to sig-policy-leave@lists.apnic.net
********************************************** IPv4 is over Are you ready for the new Internet ? http://www.theipv6company.com The IPv6 Company
This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive use of the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty authorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited, will be considered a criminal offense, so you must reply to the original sender to inform about this communication and delete it.
Activity Summary
- 101 days inactive
- 101 days old
- sig-policy@lists.apnic.net
- 2 participants
- 1 comments