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Dear SIG members
The proposal "prop-120: Final /8 pool exhaustion plan" has been sent to the Policy SIG for review.
It will be presented at the Open Policy Meeting at APNIC 44 which will be held in Taichung, Taiwan on Wednesday and Thursday, 14 & 15 September 2017.
We invite you to review and comment on the proposal on the mailing list before the meeting.
The comment period on the mailing list before an APNIC meeting is an important part of the policy development process. We encourage you to express your views on the proposal:
- Do you support or oppose this proposal? - Do you see any disadvantages in this proposal? - Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear? - What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more effective?
Information about this proposal is available at:
http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-120
Regards
Sumon, Bertrand, Ching-Heng APNIC Policy SIG Chairs
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prop-120-v001: Final /8 pool exhaustion plan
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Proposer: Tomohiro Fujisaki fujisaki@syce.net
1. Problem statement --------------------
APNIC makes IPv4 address delegation from two IPv4 pools. These are the 103/8 (Final /8) pool and the non-103/8 IPv4 Recovered pool.
Currently, there are no IPv4 addresses in the non-103/8 IPv4 Recovered pool and APNIC manages a Recovered Pool Waiting List for approved requests. And, based on the Geoff's projection (*1), the 103/8 (Final /8) pool will be exhausted in a few years.
It will be necessary to make a guidance about how to manage the IPv4 delegation after both IPv4 pools exhaustion.
2. Objective of policy change -----------------------------
To provide a guidance for 103/8 pool exhaustion.
3. Situation in other regions -----------------------------
None.
4. Proposed policy solution ---------------------------
Guidance for 103/8 pool exhaustion:
- The first time an approved request cannot be fulfilled from the 103/8 pool, Final /8 delegations will end.
- APNIC will begin to manage only one (Recovered) IPv4 pool containing any residual 103/8 space and all future returns, including 103/8 returns.
- Each new account holder can receive up to a /21 from the IPv4 Recovered pool.
- Existing account holders who have not yet received the maximum /21 from the two pools may continue to apply for space from the Recovered pool until they have received a maximum /21 from the two pools.
- A waiting list will be created if approved requests cannot be fulfilled. Each new account holder will be given priority in the waiting list.
5. Advantages / Disadvantages -----------------------------
Advantages:
- Possible to avoid confusion at 103/8 address pool exhaustion date
Disadvantages:
None.
6. Impact on resource holders ------------------------------
No impact to resource holders.
7. References ------------- 1. IPv4 Address Report http://www.potaroo.net/tools/ipv4/
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Dear Tomohiro,
APNIC Secretariat is reviewing the policy proposals under discussion and seeks clarification to better understand the intention of prop-120-v001: Final /8 pool exhaustion plan.
APNIC remains neutral and objective about the outcome of this discussion and only requires clarification to ensure correct implementation should the proposal reach consensus.
- After exhaustion, will initial resource requests from new Members be filled before unmet requests from Members already on the waiting list prior to exhaustion? Or will this priority only apply to requests submitted after the exhaustion date?
We appreciate your clarification.
Regards,
Adam
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On 9/8/17, 16:17, "sig-policy-bounces@lists.apnic.net on behalf of chku" <sig-policy-bounces@lists.apnic.net on behalf of chku@twnic.net.tw> wrote:
Dear SIG members
The proposal "prop-120: Final /8 pool exhaustion plan" has been sent to the Policy SIG for review.
It will be presented at the Open Policy Meeting at APNIC 44 which will be held in Taichung, Taiwan on Wednesday and Thursday, 14 & 15 September 2017.
We invite you to review and comment on the proposal on the mailing list before the meeting.
The comment period on the mailing list before an APNIC meeting is an important part of the policy development process. We encourage you to express your views on the proposal:
- Do you support or oppose this proposal? - Do you see any disadvantages in this proposal? - Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear? - What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more effective?
Information about this proposal is available at:
http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-120
Regards
Sumon, Bertrand, Ching-Heng APNIC Policy SIG Chairs
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prop-120-v001: Final /8 pool exhaustion plan
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Proposer: Tomohiro Fujisaki fujisaki@syce.net
1. Problem statement --------------------
APNIC makes IPv4 address delegation from two IPv4 pools. These are the 103/8 (Final /8) pool and the non-103/8 IPv4 Recovered pool.
Currently, there are no IPv4 addresses in the non-103/8 IPv4 Recovered pool and APNIC manages a Recovered Pool Waiting List for approved requests. And, based on the Geoff's projection (*1), the 103/8 (Final /8) pool will be exhausted in a few years.
It will be necessary to make a guidance about how to manage the IPv4 delegation after both IPv4 pools exhaustion.
2. Objective of policy change -----------------------------
To provide a guidance for 103/8 pool exhaustion.
3. Situation in other regions -----------------------------
None.
4. Proposed policy solution ---------------------------
Guidance for 103/8 pool exhaustion:
- The first time an approved request cannot be fulfilled from the 103/8 pool, Final /8 delegations will end.
- APNIC will begin to manage only one (Recovered) IPv4 pool containing any residual 103/8 space and all future returns, including 103/8 returns.
- Each new account holder can receive up to a /21 from the IPv4 Recovered pool.
- Existing account holders who have not yet received the maximum /21 from the two pools may continue to apply for space from the Recovered pool until they have received a maximum /21 from the two pools.
- A waiting list will be created if approved requests cannot be fulfilled. Each new account holder will be given priority in the waiting list.
5. Advantages / Disadvantages -----------------------------
Advantages:
- Possible to avoid confusion at 103/8 address pool exhaustion date
Disadvantages:
None.
6. Impact on resource holders ------------------------------
No impact to resource holders.
7. References ------------- 1. IPv4 Address Report http://www.potaroo.net/tools/ipv4/
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Dear Colleagues,
I am Satoru Tsurumaki from Policy Working Group in Japan.
I would like to share key feedback in our community for prop-120, based on a meeting we organised on 5th Sep to discuss these proposals.
Many support expressed on clarifying how IPv4 addresses should be distributed after /8 pool exhaustion. Different ideas were shared on details of how to distribute.
* It is appropriate to prioritise new comers to a certain extent, as they will be challenged if they cannot receive IPv4 address block
* Different comments on the size of distribution post /8 pool exhaustion 1) /21 as the upper limit Maintain the current size
2) /22 as the upper limit Adjust to the limited pool post /8 pool exhaustion
3) Two blocks of /22s as the upper limit Separate blocks for new comers and others. New comers can queue to receive the other block after receiving a block for new comers
Other comments: * Care should be taken when adopting this policy, to reflect the waiting list of distribution from the returned pool
* Consideration needed on how to handle transfer of 103/8 block if prop-116 is adopted (Prefixes will be mixed after the exhaustion of unallocated final /8 pool)
Best Regards,
Satoru Tsurumaki Policy Working Group Japan Open Policy Forum
2017-08-09 15:17 GMT+09:00 chku chku@twnic.net.tw:
Dear SIG members
The proposal "prop-120: Final /8 pool exhaustion plan" has been sent to the Policy SIG for review.
It will be presented at the Open Policy Meeting at APNIC 44 which will be held in Taichung, Taiwan on Wednesday and Thursday, 14 & 15 September 2017.
We invite you to review and comment on the proposal on the mailing list before the meeting.
The comment period on the mailing list before an APNIC meeting is an important part of the policy development process. We encourage you to express your views on the proposal:
- Do you support or oppose this proposal?
- Do you see any disadvantages in this proposal?
- Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear?
- What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more effective?
Information about this proposal is available at:
http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-120Regards
Sumon, Bertrand, Ching-Heng APNIC Policy SIG Chairs
prop-120-v001: Final /8 pool exhaustion plan
Proposer: Tomohiro Fujisaki fujisaki@syce.net
- Problem statement
APNIC makes IPv4 address delegation from two IPv4 pools. These are the 103/8 (Final /8) pool and the non-103/8 IPv4 Recovered pool.
Currently, there are no IPv4 addresses in the non-103/8 IPv4 Recovered pool and APNIC manages a Recovered Pool Waiting List for approved requests. And, based on the Geoff's projection (*1), the 103/8 (Final /8) pool will be exhausted in a few years.
It will be necessary to make a guidance about how to manage the IPv4 delegation after both IPv4 pools exhaustion.
- Objective of policy change
To provide a guidance for 103/8 pool exhaustion.
- Situation in other regions
None.
- Proposed policy solution
Guidance for 103/8 pool exhaustion:
The first time an approved request cannot be fulfilled from the 103/8 pool, Final /8 delegations will end.
APNIC will begin to manage only one (Recovered) IPv4 pool containing any residual 103/8 space and all future returns, including 103/8 returns.
Each new account holder can receive up to a /21 from the IPv4 Recovered pool.
Existing account holders who have not yet received the maximum /21 from the two pools may continue to apply for space from the Recovered pool until they have received a maximum /21 from the two pools.
A waiting list will be created if approved requests cannot be fulfilled. Each new account holder will be given priority in the waiting list.
- Advantages / Disadvantages
Advantages:
- Possible to avoid confusion at 103/8 address pool exhaustion date
Disadvantages:
None.
- Impact on resource holders
No impact to resource holders.
- References
- IPv4 Address Report
http://www.potaroo.net/tools/ipv4/
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