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[sig-policy] Fw: I-D ACTION:draft-hain-1918bis-01.txt (fwd)
Dear colleagues,
This new Internet draft, posted last week may be of interest to readers on this list.
The draft proposes 3 new '1918' spaces in IPv4, each a /8 in size, to supplement the existing private address space.
Follow up discussion has taken place on the IETF list, details of which can be found at:
http://www.ietf.org/maillist.html
kind regards,
Anne --
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Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 15:36:15 -0500 From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-hain-1918bis-01.txt
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
Title : Expanded Address Allocation for Private Internets Author(s) : T. Hain Filename : draft-hain-1918bis-01.txt Pages : 6 Date : 2005-2-2
This document updates RFC 1918 and identifies additional IPv4 address space for use in private networks.
A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hain-1918bis-01.txt
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Dear Anne,
Thank you for your reminder and it is very interesting to know that a revision of RFC1918 is under discussion right now.
One of my humble idea for a 1918 revision is to create a new category of private IP address for extranet backbone networks.
JPNIC had sometimes had a inquery for a global IP address block, which is not for a connection to the global Internet, but just connecting a number of leaf sites with arbitrarily assigned RFC1918 address blocks.
For this purpose it would be great if one portion of private address, say a /8, is classified as different level of private IP address and handled carefully not to be used in a leaf site,
I still need to have a careful look at that I-D, but do you think this idea is relevent with that discussion?
Regards, ----- MAEMURA Akinori Director, JPNIC IP Department maem@maem.org , maem@nic.ad.jp
In message Pine.LNX.4.61.0502071038310.14658@durian.apnic.net "[sig-policy] Fw: I-D ACTION:draft-hain-1918bis-01.txt (fwd)" "Anne Lord anne@apnic.net" wrote:
| | Dear colleagues, | | This new Internet draft, posted last week may be of interest to | readers on this list. | | The draft proposes 3 new '1918' spaces in IPv4, each a /8 in size, to | supplement the existing private address space. | | Follow up discussion has taken place on the IETF list, details of | which can be found at: | | http://www.ietf.org/maillist.html | | kind regards, | | Anne | -- | | ------------------------------------- | Begin forwarded message: | | Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 15:36:15 -0500 | From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org | To: i-d-announce@ietf.org | Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-hain-1918bis-01.txt | | | A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts | directories. | | | Title : Expanded Address Allocation for Private Internets | Author(s) : T. Hain | Filename : draft-hain-1918bis-01.txt | Pages : 6 | Date : 2005-2-2 | | This document updates RFC 1918 and identifies additional IPv4 address | space for use in private networks. | | A URL for this Internet-Draft is: | http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hain-1918bis-01.txt | | To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to | i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the | message. | You can also visit https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce | to change your subscription settings. | | | Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the | username | "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, | type "cd internet-drafts" and then | "get draft-hain-1918bis-01.txt". | | A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in | http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html | or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt | | | Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. | | Send a message to: | mailserv@ietf.org. | In the body type: | "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-hain-1918bis-01.txt". | | NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in | MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this | feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" | command. To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or | a MIME-compliant mail reader. Different MIME-compliant mail readers | exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with | "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split | up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on | how to manipulate these messages. | | | Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader | implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the | Internet-Draft. | | ------------------------ | * sig-policy: APNIC SIG on resource management policy * | _______________________________________________ | sig-policy mailing list | sig-policy@lists.apnic.net | http://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/sig-policy

hi Maemura San,
One of my humble idea for a 1918 revision is to create a new category of private IP address for extranet backbone networks.
JPNIC had sometimes had a inquery for a global IP address block, which is not for a connection to the global Internet, but just connecting a number of leaf sites with arbitrarily assigned RFC1918 address blocks.
For this purpose it would be great if one portion of private address, say a /8, is classified as different level of private IP address and handled carefully not to be used in a leaf site,
I still need to have a careful look at that I-D, but do you think this idea is relevent with that discussion?
It is related to the discussion yes but what you suggest would go one step further, since the draft does not go as far as specifying an actual purposes for the address space that is set aside. It merely discusses the reasons and suggests an amount of space.
We have contacted Tony Hain and asked him if he will be at the meeting in Kyoto and available to make an informational presentation on this, but so far, I have not received a reply.
kind regards, Anne --
In message Pine.LNX.4.61.0502071038310.14658@durian.apnic.net "[sig-policy] Fw: I-D ACTION:draft-hain-1918bis-01.txt (fwd)" "Anne Lord anne@apnic.net" wrote:
| | Dear colleagues, | | This new Internet draft, posted last week may be of interest to | readers on this list. | | The draft proposes 3 new '1918' spaces in IPv4, each a /8 in size, to | supplement the existing private address space. | | Follow up discussion has taken place on the IETF list, details of | which can be found at: | | http://www.ietf.org/maillist.html | | kind regards, | | Anne | -- | | ------------------------------------- | Begin forwarded message: | | Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 15:36:15 -0500 | From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org | To: i-d-announce@ietf.org | Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-hain-1918bis-01.txt | | | A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts | directories. | | | Title : Expanded Address Allocation for Private Internets | Author(s) : T. Hain | Filename : draft-hain-1918bis-01.txt | Pages : 6 | Date : 2005-2-2 | | This document updates RFC 1918 and identifies additional IPv4 address | space for use in private networks. | | A URL for this Internet-Draft is: | http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hain-1918bis-01.txt | | To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to | i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the | message. | You can also visit https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce | to change your subscription settings. | | | Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the | username | "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, | type "cd internet-drafts" and then | "get draft-hain-1918bis-01.txt". | | A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in | http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html | or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt | | | Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. | | Send a message to: | mailserv@ietf.org. | In the body type: | "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-hain-1918bis-01.txt". | | NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in | MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this | feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" | command. To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or | a MIME-compliant mail reader. Different MIME-compliant mail readers | exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with | "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split | up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on | how to manipulate these messages. | | | Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader | implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the | Internet-Draft. | | ------------------------ | * sig-policy: APNIC SIG on resource management policy * | _______________________________________________ | sig-policy mailing list | sig-policy@lists.apnic.net | http://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/sig-policy
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