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Dear SIG members,
A new version of the proposal "prop-130: Modification of transfer policies"
has been sent to the Policy SIG for review.
It will be presented during the Open Policy Meeting at APNIC 49 in
Melbourne,
Australia on Thursday, 20 February 2020.
We invite you to review and comment on the proposal on the mailing list
before the meeting.
The comment period on the mailing list before an APNIC meeting is an
important part of the policy development process. We encourage you to
express your views on the proposal:
- Do you support or oppose this proposal?
- Does this proposal solve a problem you are experiencing? If so, tell the community about your situation.
- Do you see any disadvantages in this proposal?
- Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear?
- What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more effective?
Information about this proposal is available at:
http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-130
Regards
Sumon, Bertrand, Ching-Heng
APNIC Policy SIG Chairs
prop-130-v002: Modification of transfer policies
Proposer: Jordi Palet Martinez
jordi.palet@theipv6company.com
1. Problem statement
Existing transfer policies for IPv4, IPv6 and ASN resources have some
differences
among what is allowed and what not, if in the case of intra-RIR and
inter-RIR, and
it is not clear if in case of merger and acquisitions it is referring to
a complete
company, part of it, or even if in case of a company reorganization or
relocation,
the policy is supportive to that case.
In the case of inter-RIR, the counterpart RIR need to have a reciprocal
policy or
procedure that allows it.
2. Objective of policy change
To ensure that the policy text is clarified, if those cases are
supported by the
community. It will also facilitate companies or business units, moving
or being established
in other regions.
3. Situation in other regions
There is a variety of support of all those cases in different regions.
The one more open is
RIPE, followed by ARIN. Similar policy proposals are being submitted in
LACNIC and AFRINIC.
4. Proposed policy solution
Actual Text
8.4. Mergers & acquisitions
APNIC will process and record the transfer of IPv4 resources as the
result of merger or acquisition.
11.0. Transfer of IPv6 resources
APNIC will only recognize the transfer or IPv6 addresses as the result
of Merger & Acquisition activity.
The following conditions and consequences apply.
13.3. Mergers & acquisitions
APNIC will recognize the transfer of ASNs as the result of merger or
acquisition.
Proposed Text
8.4. Mergers, acquisitions and relocations
APNIC will process and record the transfer of IPv4 resources as the
result of a partial or complete merger,
acquisition, reorganization or relocation, in both cases, intra-RIR and
inter-RIR.
In the case of inter-RIR, the counterpart RIR need to have a reciprocal
policy/procedure that allows it.
11.0. Transfer of IPv6 resources
APNIC will only recognize the transfer or IPv6 addresses as the result
of a partial or complete merger,
acquisition, reorganization or relocation activity, in both cases,
intra-RIR and inter-RIR. The following
conditions and consequences apply.
In the case of inter-RIR, the counterpart RIR need to have a reciprocal
policy/procedure that allows it.
13.3. Mergers, acquisitions and relocations
APNIC will recognize the transfer of ASNs as the result of a partial or
complete merger, acquisition,
reorganization or relocation activity, in both cases, intra-RIR and
inter-RIR.
In the case of inter-RIR, the counterpart RIR need to have a reciprocal
policy/procedure that allows it.
5. Advantages / Disadvantages
Advantages:
Fulfilling the objectives above indicated.
Disadvantages:
It could be considered that it can create further dis-aggregation,
especially in IPv6, however, those cases
are rare and only happening from time to time, so the impact is
negligible, and justified by the documentation
provided to the secretariat.
6. Impact on resource holders
None.
7. References
https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-682
https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#eight2
Cordialement,
Bertrand Cherrier
Micro Logic Systems
https://www.mls.nc
Tél : +687 24 99 24
VoIP : 65 24 99 24
SAV : +687 36 67 76 (58F/min)
Dear SIG members,
Here is the Secretariat impact assessment for proposal “prop-130-v002: Modification of transfer policies” and the same is also published at:
https://www.apnic.net/community/policy/proposals/prop-130/
Staff comments --------------
Possible difficulties in verifying mergers, acquisition, reorganization, or relocation from out of APNIC region due to unfamiliarity of languages and legal systems.
The NRO comparative policy matrix indicates APNIC Members outside of the region must have network presence in the Asia Pacific. Additionally, some RIRs have an ‘out of region’ policy which restricts where they can use their resources.
Members may face difficulties updating their domain objects if there has been a partial IPv6 transfer where a larger block has been de-aggregated.
Technical comments ------------------
APNIC’s current systems are not configured to handle inter-RIR IPv6 reverse DNS. This will need to be developed.
APNIC cannot predict when other RIRs will support IPv6 reverse DNS fragments incoming to their systems.
Legal comments --------------
This will affect how APNIC verifies M&A documents. May require cross RIR coordination.
Implementation --------------
6 months
Regards Sunny
On 20/01/2020 10:16 am, Bertrand Cherrier wrote:
Dear SIG members,
A new version of the proposal "prop-130: Modification of transfer policies" has been sent to the Policy SIG for review.
It will be presented during the Open Policy Meeting at APNIC 49 in Melbourne, Australia on Thursday, 20 February 2020.
We invite you to review and comment on the proposal on the mailing list before the meeting.
The comment period on the mailing list before an APNIC meeting is an important part of the policy development process. We encourage you to express your views on the proposal:
- Do you support or oppose this proposal?
- Does this proposal solve a problem you are experiencing? If so, tell the community about your situation.
- Do you see any disadvantages in this proposal?
- Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear?
- What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more effective?
Information about this proposal is available at: http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-130
Regards
Sumon, Bertrand, Ching-Heng APNIC Policy SIG Chairs
prop-130-v002: Modification of transfer policies
Proposer: Jordi Palet Martinez jordi.palet@theipv6company.com mailto:jordi.palet@theipv6company.com
1. Problem statementExisting transfer policies for IPv4, IPv6 and ASN resources have some differences among what is allowed and what not, if in the case of intra-RIR and inter-RIR, and it is not clear if in case of merger and acquisitions it is referring to a complete company, part of it, or even if in case of a company reorganization or relocation, the policy is supportive to that case.
In the case of inter-RIR, the counterpart RIR need to have a reciprocal policy or procedure that allows it.
2. Objective of policy changeTo ensure that the policy text is clarified, if those cases are supported by the community. It will also facilitate companies or business units, moving or being established in other regions.
3. Situation in other regionsThere is a variety of support of all those cases in different regions. The one more open is RIPE, followed by ARIN. Similar policy proposals are being submitted in LACNIC and AFRINIC.
4. Proposed policy solutionActual Text 8.4. Mergers & acquisitions
APNIC will process and record the transfer of IPv4 resources as the result of merger or acquisition.
11.0. Transfer of IPv6 resources
APNIC will only recognize the transfer or IPv6 addresses as the result of Merger & Acquisition activity. The following conditions and consequences apply.
13.3. Mergers & acquisitions
APNIC will recognize the transfer of ASNs as the result of merger or acquisition.
Proposed Text 8.4. Mergers, acquisitions and relocations
APNIC will process and record the transfer of IPv4 resources as the result of a partial or complete merger, acquisition, reorganization or relocation, in both cases, intra-RIR and inter-RIR.
In the case of inter-RIR, the counterpart RIR need to have a reciprocal policy/procedure that allows it.
11.0. Transfer of IPv6 resources
APNIC will only recognize the transfer or IPv6 addresses as the result of a partial or complete merger, acquisition, reorganization or relocation activity, in both cases, intra-RIR and inter-RIR. The following conditions and consequences apply.
In the case of inter-RIR, the counterpart RIR need to have a reciprocal policy/procedure that allows it.
13.3. Mergers, acquisitions and relocations
APNIC will recognize the transfer of ASNs as the result of a partial or complete merger, acquisition, reorganization or relocation activity, in both cases, intra-RIR and inter-RIR.
In the case of inter-RIR, the counterpart RIR need to have a reciprocal policy/procedure that allows it.
5. Advantages / DisadvantagesAdvantages: Fulfilling the objectives above indicated.
Disadvantages: It could be considered that it can create further dis-aggregation, especially in IPv6, however, those cases are rare and only happening from time to time, so the impact is negligible, and justified by the documentation provided to the secretariat.
6. Impact on resource holdersNone.
7. Referenceshttps://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-682 https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#eight2
Cordialement,
Bertrand Cherrier Micro Logic Systems https://www.mls.nc Tél : +687 24 99 24 VoIP : 65 24 99 24 SAV : +687 36 67 76 (58F/min)
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