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Dear colleagues,
Part of prop-117: "Returned IPv4 address management and Final /8 exhaustion", reached consensus at the APNIC 43 Policy SIG and then later at the AGM.
Components of the proposal regarding which pool 103/8 blocks should be returned to reached consensus. There was no agreement on the proposal for Final /8 pool exhaustion procedures.
A new version prop-117-v003 was created to make it clear which part of the proposal is reaching the final Comment Period.
Synopsis: ---------
The proposed policy solution reaching consensus is
Handling returned address: - Recovered 103/8 space will be placed in the 103/8 (Final /8) pool. - Recovered non-103/8 space will be placed in the IPv4 Recovered pool.
This proposal will now move to the next step in the APNIC Policy Development Process and is being returned to the Policy SIG mailing list for the final Comment Period.
At the end of this period the Policy SIG Chairs will evaluate comments made and determine if the consensus reached at APNIC 43 still holds. The Chairs may extend the Comment Period to a maximum of eight (8) weeks to allow further discussion.
If consensus holds, the Chair of the Policy SIG will ask the APNIC Executive Council to endorse the proposal for implementation.
- Send all comments and questions to: <sig-policy at apnic dot net> - Deadline for comments: 23:59 (UTC +10) Wednesday, 12 April 2017
Proposal details, including the full text of the proposal, history, and links to previous versions are available at:
https://www.apnic.net/community/policy/proposals/prop-117/
Regards
Sumon, Ching-Heng, Bertrand Policy SIG Chairs
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prop-117-v003: Returned IPv4 address management and Final /8 exhaustion
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Proposer: Tomohiro Fujisaki fujisaki@syce.net
1. Problem statement --------------------
APNIC currently makes delegations from two IPv4 pools. These are the 103/8 (Final /8) pool and the non-103/8 IPv4 Recovered pool.
With current policy, all returned address space, including 103/8 blocks, will be merged into the IPv4 Recovered pool.
If a 103/8 block is returned, it is placed in the IPv4 Recovered pool and re-distributed as returned space. Some organisations may receive duplicate blocks from 103/8: one under the final /8 policy, the other under the returned pool policy.
Current APNIC Policy requires account holders to receive address space from the 103/8 (Final /8) pool before they can apply for address space from the Recovered pool.
APNIC currently manages a Recovered Pool Waiting List for approved requests that cannot be met from the IPv4 Recovered pool.
2. Objective of policy change -----------------------------
To simplify the address pool management and to provide guidance for 103/8 pool exhaustion.
3. Situation in other regions -----------------------------
None.
4. Proposed policy solution ---------------------------
Handling returned address: - Recovered 103/8 space will be placed in the 103/8 (Final /8) pool. - Recovered non-103/8 space will be placed in the IPv4 Recovered pool.
5. Advantages / Disadvantages -----------------------------
Advantages:
- Simplifying management of remaining IPv4 address pools.
Disadvantages:
None.
6. Impact on resource holders ------------------------------
No impact to resource holders.
7. References -------------

Hello everybody !
Just a push up, you have another 29 hours to express you support (or not) for this proposal … all comments are welcome !
Regards,
Le 14 mars 2017 à 19:43, Sumon Ahmed Sabir sumon@fiberathome.net a écrit :
Dear colleagues,
Part of prop-117: "Returned IPv4 address management and Final /8 exhaustion", reached consensus at the APNIC 43 Policy SIG and then later at the AGM.
Components of the proposal regarding which pool 103/8 blocks should be returned to reached consensus. There was no agreement on the proposal for Final /8 pool exhaustion procedures.
A new version prop-117-v003 was created to make it clear which part of the proposal is reaching the final Comment Period.
Synopsis:
The proposed policy solution reaching consensus is
Handling returned address:
- Recovered 103/8 space will be placed in the 103/8 (Final /8) pool.
- Recovered non-103/8 space will be placed in the IPv4 Recovered pool.
This proposal will now move to the next step in the APNIC Policy Development Process and is being returned to the Policy SIG mailing list for the final Comment Period.
At the end of this period the Policy SIG Chairs will evaluate comments made and determine if the consensus reached at APNIC 43 still holds. The Chairs may extend the Comment Period to a maximum of eight (8) weeks to allow further discussion.
If consensus holds, the Chair of the Policy SIG will ask the APNIC Executive Council to endorse the proposal for implementation.
- Send all comments and questions to: <sig-policy at apnic dot net>
- Deadline for comments: 23:59 (UTC +10) Wednesday, 12 April 2017
Proposal details, including the full text of the proposal, history, and links to previous versions are available at:
https://www.apnic.net/community/policy/proposals/prop-117/ <https://www.apnic.net/community/policy/proposals/prop-117/>
Regards
Sumon, Ching-Heng, Bertrand Policy SIG Chairs
prop-117-v003: Returned IPv4 address management and Final /8 exhaustion
Proposer: Tomohiro Fujisaki fujisaki@syce.net mailto:fujisaki@syce.net
- Problem statement
APNIC currently makes delegations from two IPv4 pools. These are the 103/8 (Final /8) pool and the non-103/8 IPv4 Recovered pool.
With current policy, all returned address space, including 103/8 blocks, will be merged into the IPv4 Recovered pool.
If a 103/8 block is returned, it is placed in the IPv4 Recovered pool and re-distributed as returned space. Some organisations may receive duplicate blocks from 103/8: one under the final /8 policy, the other under the returned pool policy.
Current APNIC Policy requires account holders to receive address space from the 103/8 (Final /8) pool before they can apply for address space from the Recovered pool.
APNIC currently manages a Recovered Pool Waiting List for approved requests that cannot be met from the IPv4 Recovered pool.
- Objective of policy change
To simplify the address pool management and to provide guidance for 103/8 pool exhaustion.
- Situation in other regions
None.
- Proposed policy solution
Handling returned address:
- Recovered 103/8 space will be placed in the 103/8 (Final /8) pool.
- Recovered non-103/8 space will be placed in the IPv4 Recovered pool.
- Advantages / Disadvantages
Advantages:
- Simplifying management of remaining IPv4 address pools.
Disadvantages:
None.
- Impact on resource holders
No impact to resource holders.
- References
sig-policy: APNIC SIG on resource management policy *
sig-policy mailing list sig-policy@lists.apnic.net https://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/sig-policy

Hi everyone ,
I have a simple question for clarification . How 103/8 block is returned to APNIC which already assigned to members ?
*Regards / Jahangir* On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Sumon Ahmed Sabir sumon@fiberathome.net wrote:
Dear colleagues,
Part of prop-117: "Returned IPv4 address management and Final /8 exhaustion", reached consensus at the APNIC 43 Policy SIG and then later at the AGM.
Components of the proposal regarding which pool 103/8 blocks should be returned to reached consensus. There was no agreement on the proposal for Final /8 pool exhaustion procedures.
A new version prop-117-v003 was created to make it clear which part of the proposal is reaching the final Comment Period.
Synopsis:
The proposed policy solution reaching consensus is
Handling returned address:
- Recovered 103/8 space will be placed in the 103/8 (Final /8) pool.
- Recovered non-103/8 space will be placed in the IPv4 Recovered pool.
This proposal will now move to the next step in the APNIC Policy Development Process and is being returned to the Policy SIG mailing list for the final Comment Period.
At the end of this period the Policy SIG Chairs will evaluate comments made and determine if the consensus reached at APNIC 43 still holds. The Chairs may extend the Comment Period to a maximum of eight (8) weeks to allow further discussion.
If consensus holds, the Chair of the Policy SIG will ask the APNIC Executive Council to endorse the proposal for implementation.
- Send all comments and questions to: <sig-policy at apnic dot net>
- Deadline for comments: 23:59 (UTC +10) Wednesday, 12 April 2017
Proposal details, including the full text of the proposal, history, and links to previous versions are available at:
https://www.apnic.net/community/policy/proposals/prop-117/
Regards
Sumon, Ching-Heng, Bertrand Policy SIG Chairs
prop-117-v003: Returned IPv4 address management and Final /8 exhaustion
Proposer: Tomohiro Fujisaki fujisaki@syce.net
- Problem statement
APNIC currently makes delegations from two IPv4 pools. These are the 103/8 (Final /8) pool and the non-103/8 IPv4 Recovered pool.
With current policy, all returned address space, including 103/8 blocks, will be merged into the IPv4 Recovered pool.
If a 103/8 block is returned, it is placed in the IPv4 Recovered pool and re-distributed as returned space. Some organisations may receive duplicate blocks from 103/8: one under the final /8 policy, the other under the returned pool policy.
Current APNIC Policy requires account holders to receive address space from the 103/8 (Final /8) pool before they can apply for address space from the Recovered pool.
APNIC currently manages a Recovered Pool Waiting List for approved requests that cannot be met from the IPv4 Recovered pool.
- Objective of policy change
To simplify the address pool management and to provide guidance for 103/8 pool exhaustion.
- Situation in other regions
None.
- Proposed policy solution
Handling returned address:
- Recovered 103/8 space will be placed in the 103/8 (Final /8) pool.
- Recovered non-103/8 space will be placed in the IPv4 Recovered pool.
- Advantages / Disadvantages
Advantages:
- Simplifying management of remaining IPv4 address pools.
Disadvantages:
None.
- Impact on resource holders
No impact to resource holders.
- References
sig-policy: APNIC SIG on resource management policy
sig-policy mailing list sig-policy@lists.apnic.net https://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/sig-policy
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Hello Jahangir
Final /8 blocks that are returned from Member accounts are being held in a ‘reserved’ status by the Secretariat until the community decides to put them back in the Final /8 free pool, or place them in the IPv4 recovered pool where non-103/8 returns are placed.
At APNIC 43 the proposal reaching consensus was to return them to the Final /8 pool.
This final call will end today, unless extended by the Chairs.
Kind regards,
Adam
_______________________________________________________ Adam Gosling Senior Internet Policy Analyst, APNIC e: adam@apnic.net p: +61 7 3858 3142 m: +61 421 456 243 www.apnic.net _______________________________________________________
Join the conversation: https://blog.apnic.net/ _______________________________________________________
From: sig-policy-bounces@lists.apnic.net on behalf of Jahangir Hossain jahangir@parween.net Date: Tuesday, 11 April 2017 at 19:39 To: Sumon Ahmed Sabir sumon@fiberathome.net Cc: Policy Mailing List sig-policy@apnic.net Subject: Re: [sig-policy] Final Comment Period for prop-117-v003: Returned IPv4 address management and Final /8 exhaustion
Hi everyone ,
I have a simple question for clarification . How 103/8 block is returned to APNIC which already assigned to members ?
Regards / Jahangir
On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Sumon Ahmed Sabir <sumon@fiberathome.netmailto:sumon@fiberathome.net> wrote: Dear colleagues,
Part of prop-117: "Returned IPv4 address management and Final /8 exhaustion", reached consensus at the APNIC 43 Policy SIG and then later at the AGM.
Components of the proposal regarding which pool 103/8 blocks should be returned to reached consensus. There was no agreement on the proposal for Final /8 pool exhaustion procedures.
A new version prop-117-v003 was created to make it clear which part of the proposal is reaching the final Comment Period.
Synopsis: ---------
The proposed policy solution reaching consensus is
Handling returned address: - Recovered 103/8 space will be placed in the 103/8 (Final /8) pool. - Recovered non-103/8 space will be placed in the IPv4 Recovered pool.
This proposal will now move to the next step in the APNIC Policy Development Process and is being returned to the Policy SIG mailing list for the final Comment Period.
At the end of this period the Policy SIG Chairs will evaluate comments made and determine if the consensus reached at APNIC 43 still holds. The Chairs may extend the Comment Period to a maximum of eight (8) weeks to allow further discussion.
If consensus holds, the Chair of the Policy SIG will ask the APNIC Executive Council to endorse the proposal for implementation.
- Send all comments and questions to: <sig-policy at apnic dot net> - Deadline for comments: 23:59 (UTC +10) Wednesday, 12 April 2017
Proposal details, including the full text of the proposal, history, and links to previous versions are available at:
https://www.apnic.net/community/policy/proposals/prop-117/
Regards
Sumon, Ching-Heng, Bertrand Policy SIG Chairs
-------------------------------------------------------
prop-117-v003: Returned IPv4 address management and Final /8 exhaustion
-------------------------------------------------------
Proposer: Tomohiro Fujisaki fujisaki@syce.netmailto:fujisaki@syce.net
1. Problem statement --------------------
APNIC currently makes delegations from two IPv4 pools. These are the 103/8 (Final /8) pool and the non-103/8 IPv4 Recovered pool.
With current policy, all returned address space, including 103/8 blocks, will be merged into the IPv4 Recovered pool.
If a 103/8 block is returned, it is placed in the IPv4 Recovered pool and re-distributed as returned space. Some organisations may receive duplicate blocks from 103/8: one under the final /8 policy, the other under the returned pool policy.
Current APNIC Policy requires account holders to receive address space from the 103/8 (Final /8) pool before they can apply for address space from the Recovered pool.
APNIC currently manages a Recovered Pool Waiting List for approved requests that cannot be met from the IPv4 Recovered pool.
2. Objective of policy change -----------------------------
To simplify the address pool management and to provide guidance for 103/8 pool exhaustion.
3. Situation in other regions -----------------------------
None.
4. Proposed policy solution ---------------------------
Handling returned address: - Recovered 103/8 space will be placed in the 103/8 (Final /8) pool. - Recovered non-103/8 space will be placed in the IPv4 Recovered pool.
5. Advantages / Disadvantages -----------------------------
Advantages:
- Simplifying management of remaining IPv4 address pools.
Disadvantages:
None.
6. Impact on resource holders ------------------------------
No impact to resource holders.
7. References -------------
* sig-policy: APNIC SIG on resource management policy * _______________________________________________ sig-policy mailing list sig-policy@lists.apnic.netmailto:sig-policy@lists.apnic.net https://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/sig-policy
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Hi Adam ,
Thanks for your comments .
*Handling returned address: - Recovered 103/8 space will be placed in the 103/8 (Final /8) pool.* * - Recovered non-103/8 space will be placed in the IPv4 Recovered pool.* Agreed .
*Regards / Jahangir *
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 3:11 AM, Adam Gosling adam@apnic.net wrote:
Hello Jahangir
Final /8 blocks that are returned from Member accounts are being held in a ‘reserved’ status by the Secretariat until the community decides to put them back in the Final /8 free pool, or place them in the IPv4 recovered pool where non-103/8 returns are placed.
At APNIC 43 the proposal reaching consensus was to return them to the Final /8 pool.
This final call will end today, unless extended by the Chairs.
Kind regards,
Adam
Adam Gosling
Senior Internet Policy Analyst, APNIC
e: adam@apnic.net
p: +61 7 3858 3142 <+61%207%203858%203142>
m: +61 421 456 243 <+61%20421%20456%20243>
www.apnic.net
Join the conversation: https://blog.apnic.net/
*From: *sig-policy-bounces@lists.apnic.net on behalf of Jahangir Hossain jahangir@parween.net *Date: *Tuesday, 11 April 2017 at 19:39 *To: *Sumon Ahmed Sabir sumon@fiberathome.net *Cc: *Policy Mailing List sig-policy@apnic.net *Subject: *Re: [sig-policy] Final Comment Period for prop-117-v003: Returned IPv4 address management and Final /8 exhaustion
Hi everyone ,
I have a simple question for clarification . How 103/8 block is returned to APNIC which already assigned to members ?
*Regards / Jahangir *
On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Sumon Ahmed Sabir sumon@fiberathome.net wrote:
Dear colleagues,
Part of prop-117: "Returned IPv4 address management and Final /8 exhaustion", reached consensus at the APNIC 43 Policy SIG and then later at the AGM.
Components of the proposal regarding which pool 103/8 blocks should be returned to reached consensus. There was no agreement on the proposal for Final /8 pool exhaustion procedures.
A new version prop-117-v003 was created to make it clear which part of the proposal is reaching the final Comment Period.
Synopsis:
The proposed policy solution reaching consensus is
Handling returned address:
- Recovered 103/8 space will be placed in the 103/8 (Final /8) pool.
- Recovered non-103/8 space will be placed in the IPv4 Recovered pool.
This proposal will now move to the next step in the APNIC Policy Development Process and is being returned to the Policy SIG mailing list for the final Comment Period.
At the end of this period the Policy SIG Chairs will evaluate comments made and determine if the consensus reached at APNIC 43 still holds. The Chairs may extend the Comment Period to a maximum of eight (8) weeks to allow further discussion.
If consensus holds, the Chair of the Policy SIG will ask the APNIC Executive Council to endorse the proposal for implementation.
- Send all comments and questions to: <sig-policy at apnic dot net>
- Deadline for comments: 23:59 (UTC +10) Wednesday, 12 April 2017
Proposal details, including the full text of the proposal, history, and links to previous versions are available at:
https://www.apnic.net/community/policy/proposals/prop-117/
Regards
Sumon, Ching-Heng, Bertrand Policy SIG Chairs
prop-117-v003: Returned IPv4 address management and Final /8 exhaustion
Proposer: Tomohiro Fujisaki fujisaki@syce.net
- Problem statement
APNIC currently makes delegations from two IPv4 pools. These are the 103/8 (Final /8) pool and the non-103/8 IPv4 Recovered pool.
With current policy, all returned address space, including 103/8 blocks, will be merged into the IPv4 Recovered pool.
If a 103/8 block is returned, it is placed in the IPv4 Recovered pool and re-distributed as returned space. Some organisations may receive duplicate blocks from 103/8: one under the final /8 policy, the other under the returned pool policy.
Current APNIC Policy requires account holders to receive address space from the 103/8 (Final /8) pool before they can apply for address space from the Recovered pool.
APNIC currently manages a Recovered Pool Waiting List for approved requests that cannot be met from the IPv4 Recovered pool.
- Objective of policy change
To simplify the address pool management and to provide guidance for 103/8 pool exhaustion.
- Situation in other regions
None.
- Proposed policy solution
Handling returned address:
- Recovered 103/8 space will be placed in the 103/8 (Final /8) pool.
- Recovered non-103/8 space will be placed in the IPv4 Recovered pool.
- Advantages / Disadvantages
Advantages:
- Simplifying management of remaining IPv4 address pools.
Disadvantages:
None.
- Impact on resource holders
No impact to resource holders.
- References
sig-policy: APNIC SIG on resource management policy
sig-policy mailing list sig-policy@lists.apnic.net https://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/sig-policy
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