Hi Save,
--- Save Vocea save@apnic.net wrote:
Dear Jas
Thanks for your well-considered and valuable
contributions. I note
that your mail has already sparked some really
useful dialogue, but I
I'm not sure if your are just being nice, or APNIC
does value the discussion.. often hard to tell.
- Voting vs. consensus building
Voting
The APNIC ByLaws define certain situations where
formal voting can
occur, the most important being the Executive
Council elections. It
has also been the convention to put major decisions
affecting
membership rights (such as significant changes to
the fee structure
or adoption of a new membership agreement) to a
formal vote, although
this has generally followed a process of consensus
building before
I appreciated that.
the election. When there is a formal vote, then the
number of ballots
for each member is determined by their membership
tier.
and each tier is repesentative of amount of resource,
which represents a members capacity to own/pay for
such a network and thus votes are really just bought.
- o.k. simple view. but it means that poor
organisations in poor countries will never have the
same voice as the extra large members.
they are a member or not. In this process, the voice
of an individual
is equal to that of an Extra Large member.
So you expect the consensus process to be the filter
of bad ideas, and as it seems, the reason for delay of
good ideas. (o.k. my view - probably not shared)
But mostly it can act, as for the fees issue, as an
easy way to block change - that is a shame.
Rejection of policy proposal
I just wanted to clarify that the proposal you
mentioned is not
specifically about improving DNS service as such,
but rather about
removing one method of updating the whois database
for operational
and security reasons. The improvement in reverse DNS
update times was
given as just one example of the potential benefits.
So multiple benefits and it was still delayed..
amazing.
alive and all further inputs to the sig-policy
mailing list or
working group (when it is established) will be very
welcome.
will look forward to that..
APNIC's hosting arrangement with ARIN
Again, just for the sake of clarity, APNIC does have
a small amount
of space in one of ARIN's rack under a co-operative
agreement with
awesome.. a sensible move! and I appreciate the
clarification.
So, Are the NIRs doing this too? have they made
arrangements with APNIC or the other NIRs? if not, why
not?
Finally, thank you for your compliments about the
quality of the web
cast. We having working hard to improve access to
the APNIC meetings
and so it is really good to see those services
prompting more
discussion.
-Jas
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Jas Webb
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