Sanjaya, O.k. Slightly disappointed no one with real experience of routing space has voiced yet.. --- Sanjaya <sanjaya@apnic.net> wrote:

Dear colleagues,

In the forum, I was reminded that 'ensuring routability' is not in accordance with RFC 2050.

YAY!!

I believe that what we want is a standard process of testing a newly allocated block to help identify networks that are filtering the new block, allowing the concerned parties to contact these networks.

all due respect to those people who MAY get a bogon assignment or allocation. BUT really, is this APNIC's problem? and secondly - doesn't this just add to the work a "concerned party" has to do?

To avoid the conflict with RFC 2050, perhaps it is better if the objective is to "test and promote" rather than "test and ensure" routability.

Why not just "educate"! Routing issues like this appear to be based on two painful facets. 1) IRR is not effective and therefor not widely used. (why should I have to publicly announce my business ' routing policies) 2) operators need to get off their high-horses and accept that monolithic filters are dated! Seriously, this is more about education and awareness than spending buckets of members' money on testing and emailing reports that no-one reads. I dream of the day I might get to a NANOG, but it strikes me that this where most of this bogon space has issues.. Get APNIC to do presentation after presentation at the routing aware conferences on how to fix and re-learn route filtering. You will have an inertia problem.. but you have to start somewhere. I don't think that having the RIRs announce bogon space to address a point issue is worthwhile. -Jas. -- Jas Webb Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com