[ co-chair hat off ] further, i talked to folk about this and heard two counter arguments. smaller rirs will get disproportionate space, more than they would soon consume. as it will be more difficult for users and isps in those regions to move to v6, this is probably a good thing. the smaller rirs will have more space and this will encourage 'rir shopping', where a greedy company sets up a phony lir in the region just to get the address space. i am not sure if this is a realistic fear. but i do worry it is like saying "the poor person can not defend the food we put in their bowl. therefore we should starve them so that a thief may not prosper." i would be interested in hearing other pro and con discussion, as i assume many other people would be. randy