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Re: [pacnog] ISP and Cloud Service Provider for sale
This is spam, nothing else than that. Any non-requested email is spam, and yes you’re selling a domain. Access to the IXP is granted in many other ways.
Let’s see if any real member of PACNOG can confirm that they asked you about that … because if that’s true, you will have done that in private.
And how you justify sending this to other NOGs? Also requested by participants? They will not confirm that, because I’m sure it is not true.
It is not a single email when you send it to all the NOGs. And in any case, spam can be a single email, if not solicited.
Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet
El 2/9/21 16:22, "John Fitzgerald" john.fitzgerald@internet.de escribió:
Hi,
sorry for disturbing you, but some members of PACNOG told me this could be interesting for some ISPs already thinking of having access to DE-CIX in Frankfurt / Germany with own Rack and all Meet-Me Room cabling etc. already prepared.
I am not selling a product. And it was meant to be the only email – so no Spamming.
It is an IXP access opportunity, in fact.
Regards,
John
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John Fitzgerald Interactive Network GmbH
MD/Geschaeftsfuehrer Lindleystraße 14
http://www.internet.de D-60314 Frankfurt am Main
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Von: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ jordi.palet@consulintel.es Gesendet: Donnerstag, 2. September 2021 16:17 An: denog@internet.de; pacnog@pacnog.org Betreff: Re: [pacnog] ISP and Cloud Service Provider for sale
Do you think the NOG mail exploders are made for such kind of advertising?
This is against AUP, in most of the exploders, and you should be banned.
El 2/9/21 15:54, "pacnog-bounces@pacnog.org en nombre de denog@internet.de" <pacnog-bounces@pacnog.org en nombre de denog@internet.de> escribió:
Hi, Interactive Network GmbH, a German internet and cloud services pioneer founded in 1994 and owner of the domain “internet.de” is for sale.
This boutique internet provider is a founder member of DE-CIX, the world’s busiest internet hu. Rackspace for Cloud and Colocation is available with direct Access to DE-CIX and Tier1 upstream connectivity to Centurylink / Level3 and TATA.
Dynamic routing with BGP, own AS and high availability is guaranteed.
Offers are invited from German and international industry players wishing to integrate parts or all of the assets and services of the company to strengthen their foothold in Germany.
Please contact me directly for the preliminary prospectus and access to the virtual due diligence room.
Kind regards,
John Fitzgerald
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John Fitzgerald Interactive Network GmbH
MD/Geschaeftsfuehrer Lindleystraße 14
http://www.internet.de D-60314 Frankfurt am Main
mailto:john.fitzgerald@internet.de Tel.: +49 69 1336-0
PGP-KEY: on request Fax.: +49 69 1336-1000
HRB 47625 USt.ID-Nr. DE 202192770
Geschäftsführer Ralf Herrmann, John Fitzgerald
Handelsregister Amtsgericht Frankfurt am Main
Registriert bei Bundesnetzagentur seit 1996 als Internet Service
Provider (ISP) (http://www.bundesnetzagentur.de) Regnr. 96/142
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He spammed AFNOG, too. No one asked for it there, either.
scott
On 9/2/21 3:03 PM, Jordi Palet Martínez wrote:
This is spam, nothing else than that. Any non-requested email is spam, and yes you’re selling a domain. Access to the IXP is granted in many other ways.
Let’s see if any real member of PACNOG can confirm that they asked you about that … because if that’s true, you will have done that in private.
And how you justify sending this to other NOGs? Also requested by participants? They will not confirm that, because I’m sure it is not true.
It is not a single email when you send it to all the NOGs. And in any case, spam can be a single email, if not solicited.
Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet
El 2/9/21 16:22, "John Fitzgerald" <john.fitzgerald@internet.de mailto:john.fitzgerald@internet.de> escribió:
Hi,
sorry for disturbing you, but some members of PACNOG told me this could be interesting for some ISPs already thinking of having access to DE-CIX in Frankfurt / Germany with own Rack and all Meet-Me Room cabling etc. already prepared.
I am not selling a product. And it was meant to be the only email – so no Spamming.
It is an IXP access opportunity, in fact.
Regards,
John
John Fitzgerald Interactive Network GmbH
MD/Geschaeftsfuehrer Lindleystraße 14
http://www.internet.de http://www.internet.de/D-60314 Frankfurt am Main
*Von:*JORDI PALET MARTINEZ jordi.palet@consulintel.es *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 2. September 2021 16:17 *An:* denog@internet.de; pacnog@pacnog.org *Betreff:* Re: [pacnog] ISP and Cloud Service Provider for sale
Do you think the NOG mail exploders are made for such kind of advertising?
This is against AUP, in most of the exploders, and you should be banned.
El 2/9/21 15:54, "pacnog-bounces@pacnog.org mailto:pacnog-bounces@pacnog.org en nombre de denog@internet.de mailto:denog@internet.de" <pacnog-bounces@pacnog.org mailto:pacnog-bounces@pacnog.org en nombre de denog@internet.de mailto:denog@internet.de> escribió:
Hi, Interactive Network GmbH, a German internet and cloud services pioneer founded in 1994 and owner of the domain “internet.de http://internet.de” is for sale.
This boutique internet provider is a founder member of DE-CIX, the world’s busiest internet hu. Rackspace for Cloud and Colocation is available with direct Access to DE-CIX and Tier1 upstream connectivity to Centurylink / Level3 and TATA.
Dynamic routing with BGP, own AS and high availability is guaranteed.
Offers are invited from German and international industry players wishing to integrate parts or all of the assets and services of the company to strengthen their foothold in Germany.
Please contact me directly for the preliminary prospectus and access to the virtual due diligence room.
Kind regards,
John Fitzgerald
John Fitzgerald Interactive Network GmbH
MD/Geschaeftsfuehrer Lindleystraße 14
http://www.internet.de http://www.internet.de/ D-60314 Frankfurt am Main
mailto:john.fitzgerald@internet.de Tel.: +49 69 1336-0
PGP-KEY: on request Fax.: +49 69 1336-1000
HRB 47625 USt.ID-Nr. DE 202192770
Geschäftsführer Ralf Herrmann, John Fitzgerald
Handelsregister Amtsgericht Frankfurt am Main
Registriert bei Bundesnetzagentur seit 1996 als Internet Service
Provider (ISP) (http://www.bundesnetzagentur.de http://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/) Regnr. 96/142
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I thought you guys (if anyone's still on PACNOG) might enjoy what I sent to AfNOG... >;-) (evil smile)
scott
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Please ban this spammer. He spammed at least PACNOG as well saying "...some members of PACNOG told me this could be interesting for some ISPs...", which is not true.
scott
On 9/2/21 1:55 PM, denog@internet.de wrote:
Hi, Interactive Network GmbH, a German internet and cloud services pioneer founded in 1994 and owner of the domain “internet.de http://internet.de” is for sale.
This boutique internet provider is a founder member of DE-CIX, the world’s busiest internet hu. Rackspace for Cloud and Colocation is available with direct Access to DE-CIX and Tier1 upstream connectivity to Centurylink / Level3 and TATA.
Dynamic routing with BGP, own AS and high availability is guaranteed.
Offers are invited from German and international industry players wishing to integrate parts or all of the assets and services of the company to strengthen their foothold in Germany.
Please contact me directly for the preliminary prospectus and access to the virtual due diligence room.
Kind regards,
"John Fitzgerald" aka denog@internet.de has been removed from the list.
It's not v often that apparently legitimate subscription requests slip through like this. Sorry!
philip --
scott wrote on 2/9/21 18:07 :
I thought you guys (if anyone's still on PACNOG) might enjoy what I sent to AfNOG... >;-) (evil smile)
scott
Please ban this spammer. He spammed at least PACNOG as well saying "...some members of PACNOG told me this could be interesting for some ISPs...", which is not true.
scott
On 9/2/21 1:55 PM, denog@internet.de wrote:
Hi, Interactive Network GmbH, a German internet and cloud services pioneer founded in 1994 and owner of the domain “internet.de http://internet.de” is for sale.
This boutique internet provider is a founder member of DE-CIX, the world’s busiest internet hu. Rackspace for Cloud and Colocation is available with direct Access to DE-CIX and Tier1 upstream connectivity to Centurylink / Level3 and TATA.
Dynamic routing with BGP, own AS and high availability is guaranteed.
Offers are invited from German and international industry players wishing to integrate parts or all of the assets and services of the company to strengthen their foothold in Germany.
Please contact me directly for the preliminary prospectus and access to the virtual due diligence room.
Kind regards,
pacnog mailing list pacnog@pacnog.org https://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/pacnog
On 9/3/21 11:22 PM, Philip Smith wrote:
"John Fitzgerald" aka denog@internet.de has been removed from the list.
It's not v often that apparently legitimate subscription requests slip through like this. Sorry!
scott wrote on 2/9/21 18:07 :
I thought you guys (if anyone's still on PACNOG) might enjoy what I sent to AfNOG... >;-) (evil smile)
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Hey Philip,
Nothing to apologize for. The guy not only spams, but the first thing he did in response was to lie, rather than accept he messed up and say he'll never do it again. He won't be missed on this list or on AfNOG. :)
scott
scott
Please ban this spammer. He spammed at least PACNOG as well saying "...some members of PACNOG told me this could be interesting for some ISPs...", which is not true.
scott
On 9/2/21 1:55 PM, denog@internet.de wrote:
Hi, Interactive Network GmbH, a German internet and cloud services pioneer founded in 1994 and owner of the domain “internet.de http://internet.de” is for sale.
This boutique internet provider is a founder member of DE-CIX, the world’s busiest internet hu. Rackspace for Cloud and Colocation is available with direct Access to DE-CIX and Tier1 upstream connectivity to Centurylink / Level3 and TATA.
Dynamic routing with BGP, own AS and high availability is guaranteed.
Offers are invited from German and international industry players wishing to integrate parts or all of the assets and services of the company to strengthen their foothold in Germany.
Please contact me directly for the preliminary prospectus and access to the virtual due diligence room.
Kind regards,
pacnog mailing list pacnog@pacnog.org https://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/pacnog
pacnog mailing list pacnog@pacnog.org https://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/pacnog
More than that ... they tried to convince me that it was not spam in private emails and discussed that it is more efficient for everyone, etc., etc. More efficient processing thousands of spams every day, than looking with your preferred search tool for what you need? Absolutely stupid and ridiculous people.
We have a policy that we apply to all our acquisitions, and more and more people should follow it: *any* product, service, whatever, that it has been announced by *any* unsolicited message, it is automatically banned from being acquired AND we inform all our customers and suppliers about them so they also don't buy from those criminals. There are tons of suppliers which follow laws and ethics, simple! If you want to do more, we also report all those cases to the Data Protection Agency. In the case of Spain, even a single unsolicited message (never mind it is email, SMS, phone call, or even on-site cold door), can be fined up to 600.000 euros. If it is a personal email, even more, because then up to 20 million euros because EU GDPR.
?El 5/9/21 23:18, "scott" <pacnog-bounces@pacnog.org en nombre de surfer@mauigateway.com> escribió:
On 9/3/21 11:22 PM, Philip Smith wrote: > "John Fitzgerald" aka denog@internet.de has been removed from the list. > > It's not v often that apparently legitimate subscription requests slip > through like this. Sorry!
> scott wrote on 2/9/21 18:07 : >> >> >> I thought you guys (if anyone's still on PACNOG) might enjoy what I >> sent to AfNOG... >;-) (evil smile)
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Hey Philip,
Nothing to apologize for. The guy not only spams, but the first thing he did in response was to lie, rather than accept he messed up and say he'll never do it again. He won't be missed on this list or on AfNOG. :)
scott
>> scott >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> Please ban this spammer. He spammed at least PACNOG as well saying >> "...some members of PACNOG told me this could be interesting for some >> ISPs...", which is not true. >> >> scott >> >> >> >> On 9/2/21 1:55 PM, denog@internet.de wrote: >> >> Hi, >> Interactive Network GmbH, a German internet and cloud services >> pioneer founded in 1994 and owner of the domain “internet.de >> http://internet.de” is for sale. >> >> This boutique internet provider is a founder member of DE-CIX, the >> world’s busiest internet hu. Rackspace for Cloud and Colocation is >> available with direct Access to DE-CIX and Tier1 upstream >> connectivity to Centurylink / Level3 and TATA. >> >> Dynamic routing with BGP, own AS and high availability is guaranteed. >> >> Offers are invited from German and international industry players >> wishing to integrate parts or all of the assets and services of the >> company to strengthen their foothold in Germany. >> >> Please contact me directly for the preliminary prospectus and access >> to the virtual due diligence room. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pacnog mailing list >> pacnog@pacnog.org >> https://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/pacnog >> > _______________________________________________ > pacnog mailing list > pacnog@pacnog.org > https://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/pacnog _______________________________________________ pacnog mailing list pacnog@pacnog.org https://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/pacnog
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On 9/5/21 9:37 PM, Jordi Palet Martínez wrote:
In the case of Spain, even a single unsolicited message (never mind it is email, SMS, phone call, or even on-site cold door), can be fined up to 600.000 euros. If it is a personal email, even more, because then up to 20 million euros because EU GDPR.
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Wow! I had no idea. It'd sure be interesting to see the data on the implementation and maintenance of that.
scott
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There is an on-line form. You need to use a digital certificate to submit a complain to the DPA. They investigate the case and the one that sent the email need to prove that they have previous and explicit consent for each of a) get your email into their systems, databases, etc., b) send the ad.
If they don't prove that, they will get a fine, which may depend on many factors, such as if the DPA found that they didn't send only one email or only to one person or company, if they did already that previously, etc.
Regards, Jordi @jordipalet
?El 5/9/21 23:46, "scott" <pacnog-bounces@pacnog.org en nombre de surfer@mauigateway.com> escribió:
On 9/5/21 9:37 PM, Jordi Palet Martínez wrote: > In the case of Spain, even a single unsolicited message (never mind it is email, SMS, phone call, or even on-site cold door), can be fined up to 600.000 euros. If it is a personal email, even more, because then up to 20 million euros because EU GDPR.
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Wow! I had no idea. It'd sure be interesting to see the data on the implementation and maintenance of that.
scott
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