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Lots of supermicro servers in Bhutan too (along with all the other stuffs from China).
-- Tashi
?On 5/10/18, 3:03 am, "NANOG on behalf of Randy Bush" <nanog-bounces@nanog.org on behalf of randy@psg.com> wrote:
re: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-hack-how-china-us...
from a side convo with a well known sec researcher:
>> saw that a couple of years back when apple tossed them out. so who >> do we know that is for sure not poisoned. and therein lies the rub. > Yup
truth is, i am surprised they had to add a chip, and one of the larger dies was not already trojaned.
have visions of the chinese implant on box A fighting with the american implant on box B with occasional jabs from the israelis from box C.
what i would love to see/know is how apple tries to vet the macs made in shenzhen.
randy
Lots of supermicro servers in Bhutan too (along with all the other stuffs from China).
i think that there are implants in just about everything, from asus to zeus. chinese, american, israeli, british, ...
bhutan is indeed probably infiltrated as far as possible, more by chinese than, for example, americans. but only because bhutan and china have tense relations; not because the chinese have more or better implants than others.
it's rotten all the way down.
randy
Sigh: “its rotten all the way down”
Some interesting discussion within the AusNOG community here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/security/comments/9ljcny/the_bloomberg_article_abou...
— Tashi
On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 at 22:26, Randy Bush randy@psg.com wrote:
Lots of supermicro servers in Bhutan too (along with all the other stuffs from China).
i think that there are implants in just about everything, from asus to zeus. chinese, american, israeli, british, ...
bhutan is indeed probably infiltrated as far as possible, more by chinese than, for example, americans. but only because bhutan and china have tense relations; not because the chinese have more or better implants than others.
it's rotten all the way down.
randy